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re: Predict AU's Ws and L...Now that Prosch has been cleared to play
Posted on 6/22/12 at 2:55 pm to AUtigerNOLA
Posted on 6/22/12 at 2:55 pm to AUtigerNOLA
just more bammer experts on the Auburn tigers
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Posted on 6/22/12 at 2:56 pm to BamaNixon
quote:Different games, different situations, different coaches, different players. It really isn't that hard. Hell, Bama had a 24 point swing against the 2nd best team in the country during the same season.
it's hard to make up 30+ points against stable teams in a single year.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 2:56 pm to ALcapone
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no bro im not trolling. ive been saying the entire time that i think the game comes down to QB play. Its not "waffling" just because I acknowledge there are some aspects of the game where AU has an advantage. do you think Frazier or Moseley are beyond fricking up? are you comfortable with either of those guys leading the team in a close game?
I've never seen aTm's qb play. so i guess i'll have defere to your scouting service
I don't see why i have to prove my guys wont' frick up and you can just assume theirs won't. Enough moving the goal post.
You said A&M was giong to beat that arse...you've given no reasoning as to why and have instead painted a picture of a toss up...so you'll forgive me when i thnk you're waffling.
Look it's all fun and games, you just seem to bullshitting for the sake fo bullshitting, but for some reason deny it.
This post was edited on 6/22/12 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 6/22/12 at 2:57 pm to BamaNixon
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It's not really fair to complain that a troll thread is being trolled by trolls other than the trolls who started it. Read the first three pages - Auburn fans reeling 'em in left and right.
Solid point.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 2:57 pm to BamaNixon
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It's not really fair to complain that a troll thread is being trolled by trolls other than the trolls who started it. Read the first three pages - Auburn fans reeling 'em in left and right.
not complaining...we admit we're trolling, that's the difference.
There is nothign wrong with a bama fan suggesting we're going to get destroyed ie trolling, but don't hide behind lightly parsed out "facts." Just call it what it is.
This post was edited on 6/22/12 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:01 pm to WDE24
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Different games, different situations, different coaches, different players. It really isn't that hard. Hell, Bama had a 24 point swing against the 2nd best team in the country during the same season.
Like I said, maybe. All I can go by is the vast difference in Auburn and the teams they lost to last year. I definitely think that Auburn is in an upswing (weird to say a year and a half removed from a BCSNC), but I think that 2014 is the first year they really compete for the west. They'll be dangerous in 2013, but I would be very surprised if they even keep it close with UGA, Bama and LSU. I'd be saying the same thing about Arky if they hadn't utterly imploded and then hired an animated jackrabbit to be their head coach.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:01 pm to arwicklu
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But you struggled against a bad team. The point is that normally teams don't go from barely beating Utah State to being a top team in one year.
And you're ignoring that we returned a total of 7 starters in 2011. That is the reason we were shittastic and struggled when we shouldn't have.
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who do you return right now
LINK
^lazy, didn't want to type it all out
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Vegas has Auburn tied with Penn State, Miss State, and Mizzou at 100/1 odds of a title.
And Vegas had us winning a total of 4 games last year and I believe we were at 100/1 to win it all in 2010. That doesn't really mean shite to me darlin'.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:01 pm to parkjas2001
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bama went from losing to Lamo to Asugar Bowl berth.
You're right. It is very possible to turn it around but I don't think Bama fans expected to be in the Sugar Bowl the next year. I certainly didn't expect 12 wins. We did stink the year before.
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OK so you knothing about our team but can give opinions on them?
Most of this board watches other team in the SEC play. Auburn just wasn't very good last year. They lost by double digits to Clemson, Arky, LSU, Georgia, and Bama. The Clemson game was the only one they looked like a real team in.
I don't have to think hard to say Ole Miss wasn't good last year. It isn't an insult, it is just obvious.
I'm not predicting Auburn to be down for the count or to go through Shula-type years. I think Auburn is a 7.5 win over/under right now in Vegas (without looking it up). That seems very fair with a really tough schedule, new coaches, young OL, and unproven QB.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:02 pm to piggidyphish
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...we admit we're trolling,
Eventually. Maybe AL will post a picture of a fishing boat or something later today.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:04 pm to BamaNixon
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Eventually. Maybe AL will post a picture of a fishing boat or something later today.
So you're just the moderator?
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:04 pm to piggidyphish
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you've given no reasoning as to why and have instead painted a picture of a toss up
sure i have. I've said several times that i think aTm has a better OL, consierably better. I also think they have a better RB and a better #1 WR. thus, i think there is less pressure on the aTm QB.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:05 pm to WDE24
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How did Bama do in 2008?
Ya but people laughed at Bama fans that thought we'd be awesome in 2009 at that point. I didn't think for one moment that we'd be great in 2009. I would say that team was much more the exception than the rule.
Mississippi State could win 12 games next year but I still don't expect it based on their performance last year. It would be a massive jump.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:06 pm to arwicklu
quote:I will not argue with this.
Auburn just wasn't very good last year.
quote:But if they win 8 and exceed expectations, everyone will say Chiz sucks as a coach despite no one thinking they have the talent and experience to do better.
I think Auburn is a 7.5 win over/under right now in Vegas (without looking it up).
AU should have a really good d-line. Last year it was really young and depleted by injuries. The secondary should be vastly improved as well. Combine that with much superior D coaching and a big jump in on field results would not be surprising, IMO.
Offensively, the o-line should be much better, we have a stable of talented RB's and TE's. We have 1 really good WR and some with lots of promise. The only thing keeping us from making that big jump from being bad to being pretty dang good is the big ? at QB (and OC).
This post was edited on 6/22/12 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:08 pm to WDE24
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And Vegas had us winning a total of 4 games last year
it was 6, not 4
every loser in the country would have bet on it otherwise
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:09 pm to ALcapone
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sure i have. I've said several times that i think aTm has a better OL, consierably better. I also think they have a better RB and a better #1 WR. thus, i think there is less pressure on the aTm QB.
none fo this translates to beat that arse for me...i still think you're just being over the top looking for a reaction. I don't think your explanations stand up to your premiss but i also am just trying to run out the clock unitl the weekend so please continue.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:11 pm to AUnite
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And you're ignoring that we returned a total of 7 starters in 2011. That is the reason we were shittastic and struggled when we shouldn't have.
But your assumption is that you're going from shittastic to good. All I'm saying is you might still be shittastic and that is a fair point.
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^lazy, didn't want to type it all out
Auburn does have talent and they've recruited well. Lemonier is a nightmare as well. I just think it's a 7 to 8 win team in the regular season. Playing in the toughest conference in the NCAA during rebuilding isn't easy.
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And Vegas had us winning a total of 4 games last year
It was actually 6.5 ;-)
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:11 pm to McGregor
quote:We were underdogs to MSU, Clemson, USCe, UF, Arky, LSU, UGA and Bama if memory serves me correctly.
it was 6, not 4
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:12 pm to BamaNixon
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I definitely think that Auburn is in an upswing (weird to say a year and a half removed from a BCSNC),
It's really what Chizik came into. The lack of depth on the team was pretty astounding and it caught up to us last year. We had a band aid named Cam Newton in 2010, as well as some great upper classmen play by a couple of Tubs recruits, but last year we were basically a team that started over with a ton of really young players, especially on both lines, and that just killed us.
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I think that 2014 is the first year they really compete for the west. They'll be dangerous in 2013, but I would be very surprised if they even keep it close with UGA, Bama and LSU.
I disagree with that. I think we'll be very good in 2013 and compete for the west. We'll return almost every single person on the 2 deep again. I think we'll be competitive with each of those three teams as most teams make the biggest leap from the first to the second year with new coordinators. If the talent pans out, we'll have amazing O and D lines in 2014.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:13 pm to piggidyphish
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none fo this translates to beat that arse for me
well, i think you can see how it "could" lead to a loss. and if you lose to aTm, the aggie fans "will" claim they beat that arse. is that good enough for you? Im not saying aggie is gonna beat auburn's arse the way that LSU and Bama will, but i still see a loss
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:13 pm to kage
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We were underdogs to MSU, Clemson, USCe, UF, Arky, LSU, UGA and Bama if memory serves me correctly.
apologies, I thought you were referring to the over/under number of wins vegas had auburn with at the start of the year
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