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Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:45 pm to GamecockAlum
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Only Arkansas fans have been saying Davis is better. Everyone else has stated Richardson, Lattimore, Dyer or even Ware. There is a reason why only your fanbase is the only one spewing Davis's number.
Davis had the best rushing number of any back in the SEC over his last 9 games of the season. The guy was awesome. He did start slow, but by the end of the season he was playing better than any back in the SEC. Next year I don't know but when you gash LSU and Ohio State to end the season, then you're lookin' good.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:46 pm to GamecockAlum
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you are ignoring the fact that both Jeff Demps and Brandon Bolden have more rushing yards that Davis does.
lolwut?
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:54 pm to GamecockAlum
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Jeff Demps, Brandon Bolden, Marcus Lattimore, and Trent Richardson have all produced more yards than Davis. There may be more backs, but I know those 4 for a fact.
richardson didn't this year, demps didn't this year, bolden, bolden didn't this year. I never once took career totals into account so don't even try and use that, sure those would favor demps and bolden but they've been playing college football longer so it doesn't make sense to compare that. latt underachieved for the amount of carries he received.
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And he got those touches because he earned them and produced in them. Exactly how many of our games did you watch this year?
i watched several, seemed like latt had a hurt vagina for most of them.
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Only Arkansas fans have been saying Davis is better. Everyone else has stated Richardson, Lattimore, Dyer or even Ware. There is a reason why only your fanbase is the only one spewing Davis's number.
everyone? cuz i'm pretty sure the following posters said davis was at least equal with those guys: magilla, crede15, montiger,tduecen, rbwareagle,warfarer,monticello,tiger authority, LSUtool,weaver, welcometodeathvalley....thoses are all i'm looking up but your whole no one thinks it's close cept arkansas fans logic is just wrong.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:57 pm to hogminer
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lolwut?
That is what normal people call a "fact". In this case, I used more than one fact, so what I said were the "facts".
Not go sip on your juicebox and finish coloring.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:59 pm to GamecockAlum
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you are ignoring the fact that both Jeff Demps and Brandon Bolden have more rushing yards that Davis does.
Both will be seniors this upcoming season.Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:01 am to oklahogjr
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I never once took career totals into account so don't even try and use that,
So only one year totals matter to you since they fit your failing argument? Mark Ingram had less rushing yards than several backs in the SEC this past year, but he was still the best back in the SEC. Are you going to try to dispute that as well?
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they've been playing college football longer so it doesn't make sense to compare that
Davis has played college football a year longer than Lattimore.
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magilla, crede15, montiger,tduecen, rbwareagle,warfarer,monticello,tiger authority, LSUtool,weaver, welcometodeathvalle
Okay link it up where they said it. Link up each and every single post in which those posters said that Davis was at least on equal footing with Lattimore AND Richardson.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:04 am to GamecockAlum
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So only one year totals matter to you since they fit your failing argument? Mark Ingram had less rushing yards than several backs in the SEC this past year, but he was still the best back in the SEC. Are you going to try to dispute that as well?
use career stats then, all those guys are much better than lattimore too, infact lattimore is shite compared them if you use those stats. career stats are nice for years later but to compare careers of guys who are still in college they tend to favor the older players.
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Davis has played college football a year longer than Lattimore.
thats why i used this season, its a fair assessment since latt is actually older than davis and has had more time to develop.
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Okay link it up where they said it. Link up each and every single post in which those posters said that Davis was at least on equal footing with Lattimore AND Richardson.
read through this thread again....those guys all agreed that it wasn't a clear cut argument and that davis definitely deserves a place in this discussion,
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:05 am to GamecockAlum
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:14 am to oklahogjr
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use career stats then, all those guys are much better than lattimore too, infact lattimore is shite compared them if you use those stats. career stats are nice for years later but to compare careers of guys who are still in college they tend to favor the older players.
Which is why statistics-based arguments are useless. I tried telling Arkansas fans this before but it went in one ear and out the snout (even though that argument favors Lattimore anyways).
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latt is actually older than davis and has had more time to develop.
I'm older than both of them. What does either of those statements have to do with it?
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davis definitely deserves a place in this discussion
I never said he didn't. I've said all along that Davis is a good back, like several other running backs. He just isn't the best one.
Just out of curiosity, do you believe Davis is a better running back than Trent Richardson? Arkansas fans feel free to chip in.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:18 am to GamecockAlum
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Just out of curiosity, do you believe Davis is a better running back than Trent Richardson? Arkansas fans feel free to chip in.
I believe he was head and shoulders better this year. I also think Trich has some issues with vision and his latteral movement. Trich isn't the perfect god send at running back. i honestly think in ability, Trich and davis are equals.
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Which is why statistics-based arguments are useless. I tried telling Arkansas fans this before but it went in one ear and out the snout (even though that argument favors Lattimore anyways).
they aren't useless if you know how to pick stats, if stats were useless teams wouldn't go through the process of keeping them.
also you willing to admit you were wrong on the other point of everyone thinking davis isn't on par with latt and richardson yet?
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 12:19 am
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:19 am to GamecockAlum
I don't believe this season was indicative of Richardson's talent. Also, I can't say that any one is the best back. A strong argument could be made for several.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:27 am to oklahogjr
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I believe he was head and shoulders better this year
In numbers, sure. However that would mean you think Davis is a better back than Ingram as well, and if that's that case, then this discussion between us is over.
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they aren't useless if you know how to pick stats, if stats were useless teams wouldn't go through the process of keeping them.
Most head coaches only carry about 3 numbers: Wins, losses, and championships/titles.
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also you willing to admit you were wrong on the other point of everyone thinking davis isn't on par with latt and richardson yet?
If you link them all up I will. I will also commend you for the effort.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:30 am to GamecockAlum
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Most head coaches only carry about 3 numbers: Wins, losses, and championships/titles.
good point
wins- davis got 10, latt got 9 advantage davis
loses davis has 3, latt has 5 advantage davis
championships davis has 0, latt has 0 push
so 2/3 stats that matter prove davis is better
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If you link them all up I will. I will also commend you for the effort.
if you aren't willing to give a general look at the thread your posting in, then i can't help you, sounds like you can't take being proven wrong.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:35 am to hogwild210
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I don't believe this season was indicative of Richardson's talent. Also, I can't say that any one is the best back. A strong argument could be made for several.
20 pages of BS and finally an intelligent post.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:42 am to oklahogjr
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wins- davis got 10, latt got 9 advantage davis
loses davis has 3, latt has 5 advantage davis
championships davis has 0, latt has 0 push
so 2/3 stats that matter prove davis is better
According to Arkansas fans, Davis didn't do much in the first 6 games of the season, so we need to wipe the record in those games out. Lattimore couldn't stay healthy so we need to take out the games he wasn't a part of.
So Lattimore would be at 8 wins. Take out the 2 games he missed time in that we lost and that puts him at 8-3. So that's more wins for him. I'll concede the losses, but we did win the SEC East and that is technically a title.
BTW, the SEC Coaches voted Lattimore to the First-Team All SEC. Davis was on the second team.
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if you aren't willing to give a general look at the thread your posting in, then i can't help you, sounds like you can't take being proven wrong.
Well you have not presented proof of your claim yet so I am calling you a liar. Prove me wrong brah.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:45 am to GamecockAlum
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BTW, the SEC Coaches voted Lattimore to the First-Team All SEC. Davis was on the second team.
not a stat that matters
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According to Arkansas fans, Davis didn't do much in the first 6 games of the season, so we need to wipe the record in those games out. Lattimore couldn't stay healthy so we need to take out the games he wasn't a part of.
So Lattimore would be at 8 wins. Take out the 2 games he missed time in that we lost and that puts him at 8-3. So that's more wins for him. I'll concede the losses, but we did win the SEC East and that is technically a title
you have to take into account any game they took carries in since they influenced the game in some way.
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Well you have not presented proof of your claim yet so I am calling you a liar. Prove me wrong brah.
can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink, i told you where they were, infact there are links to these posts at the bottom of this page.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:49 am to rebeltider
richardson, no brainer
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:51 am to oklahogjr
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not a stat that matters
So if only raw numbers matter, then you are saying that Lattimore is better because he had more total yards and touchdowns than Davis.
You are also saying that Davis is better than both Ingram and Richardson as well.
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can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink, i told you where they were, infact there are links to these posts at the bottom of this page.
I'm not thirsty, but you look a little dehydrated. Pour yourself a glass.
Posted on 1/17/11 at 12:53 am to GamecockAlum
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So if only raw numbers matter, then you are saying that Lattimore is better because he had more total yards and touchdowns than Davis.
You are also saying that Davis is better than both Ingram and Richardson as well.
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i agreed with you that it was all about wins, loses and championships. so who cares what the coaches though, hell the coaches don't even look at those ballots.
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I'm not thirsty, but you look a little dehydrated. Pour yourself a glass.
whatever you know where the info is anytime you feel like looking wrong.
i'm outta this thread, it needs to end, i tried to make you not look stupid as shite but i guess you gas station attendants can't be helped.
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