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re: Pittman on NIL deals: “It’s heading to a disturbing place”
Posted on 12/17/22 at 1:24 pm to Bwmdx
Posted on 12/17/22 at 1:24 pm to Bwmdx
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NTY
Imagine the NFL with no draft, no salary cap and no contracts. This is college football today.
It will end up with a few teams getting all the talent. And, if anyone happens to blossom and develope they will get snatched up and be gone. Good for them but fans will stop going to games, cheering and supporting a team if there is never any hope of having a good season.
I picture a scenario where those that can’t compete stop investing in football because lack of fan interest leads to lost revenue. More schools will start dropping football to lower divisions because they can’t compete. Maybe that’s what needs to happen anyway.
Exactly what Pitt was talking about.....I think the only thing that changes it is performance contracts, you leave you don't get paid, or you don't play you don't get paid. Look at the TX QB situation, they literally have what top QB's next year all with huge NIL deals. A couple of the donors are getting screwed lol
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Posted on 12/17/22 at 1:31 pm to hawgsalot
Maybe if enough donors get tired of paying big bucks for a player to just sit the bench or pack up and leave to another school they will slow down and we will reach an equilibrium. At the least, we will start seeing contracts come into fruition for players.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 1:46 pm to hawgfaninc
I don’t particularly like the effect that NIL is having on college football, but you guys are missing the bigger picture. NIL is just a natural step in the progression of this sport over the last 30 years. Conference expansion (which was ironically kicked off by Arkansas along with USCe), the rapid growth of the major conference TV deals, and the massive budgets at top P5 programs and huge contracts for the top head coaches lead to this.
There’s just too much money being made from college football for the players to get the tiny amount they were being given, and under the table money for a handful of guys was never a solution. With the restrictions of Title IX, NIL was the best way to pay college football players what they are worth.
Again, I don’t like the way NIL and the portal are changing the sport, but it’s just really ironic to listen to a bunch of SEC fans bitch about it. Our conference is one of the prime movers in this sport and is at the forefront of all the things that lead us to where college football is today. Have a little self-awareness people.
There’s just too much money being made from college football for the players to get the tiny amount they were being given, and under the table money for a handful of guys was never a solution. With the restrictions of Title IX, NIL was the best way to pay college football players what they are worth.
Again, I don’t like the way NIL and the portal are changing the sport, but it’s just really ironic to listen to a bunch of SEC fans bitch about it. Our conference is one of the prime movers in this sport and is at the forefront of all the things that lead us to where college football is today. Have a little self-awareness people.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 1:47 pm to deeprig9
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I disagree, that's exactly what they are paying for. You and me. The viewer.
The powers that be who are running this stuff now don’t care six cacas in Hades about the kind of people who post at forums like this, the old-school fans who appreciate the traditions of the sport and appreciate what once was and, more than any professional fans, have the kind of personal connections to these schools and these programs that are handed down through generations of families.
The attitude is that if you cater to those people, you will die with them. So they don’t prioritize those viewers, in their heart of hearts they WANT you to go away. They want viewers who are 18 to 49, preferably from diverse demographics. And those folks are unlikely to be as upset about the present situation as the old-school folks are, in fact they’re likely to be sympathetic.
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 12/17/22 at 1:50 pm to InkStainedWretch
Pittman is just being self serving because he's too old to adapt to it.
Ya'll are freaking out and crying about that an old washed up boomer high school coach is saying.
He's like the old guy at work who refuses to use e-mail.
Ya'll are freaking out and crying about that an old washed up boomer high school coach is saying.
He's like the old guy at work who refuses to use e-mail.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 1:57 pm to wmr
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The soul of it is going, going gone....
That is so shortsighted. Again, where we are today is simply a natural progression of what started with the first major round of conference expansion in 1990 and the rising TV deals and coach salaries that came after. It’s all about the money. It has been for a long time now. Just follow it.
This has been coming, and it will likely just get worse, but it isn’t like this just happened recently. We’ve just gotten to the point over the last 3-4 years that most fans are noticing the impact and don’t like what’s being sacrificed for the P5 to continue chasing more money.
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 12/17/22 at 2:02 pm to pankReb
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All they were asking was just a little bit extra on their stipend.
I always thought it should have been treated like a work study job. Pay the athletes for their practice, workouts, film study and other meetings and games.
Even minimum wage, it would have been a nice amount for the work they were putting in. They don't have time to work at the library or for various departments or even jobs off campus. Pay them for the time.
NIL has contributed to my diminished interest in the sport. I hate and don't watch pro-ball. Now, they are making college and eventually high school, into a version of the corrupted games.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 2:12 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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I always thought it should have been treated like a work study job. Pay the athletes for their practice, workouts, film study and other meetings and games.
They’ve been getting that kind of money for a few years now based on a formula that scales the money based on attendance and the size of the program. That was one of the NCAA’s proposed compromises to placate players. The problem is that everyone knows how much money is being generated by college football. Lawsuits were going to happen eventually.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 2:15 pm to ScoggDog
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As opposed to what
They’re getting a paid for education that takes a normal kid years to pay off for one.
I’m not opposed to college players making a few dollars if they’re filling stadiums and winning championships , but swapping schools, and advertisements is diluting the game.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 2:18 pm to WG_Dawg
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that is what this whole entire thing SHOULD have been about from the very start. Let a kid get his share of the pie from bookstore jersey sales or school-sponsored autograph sessions or whatever. Then somehow they're shocked when we're paying 17 year old recruits 7 figures before playing a snap
This
Posted on 12/17/22 at 2:53 pm to Miznoz
You’re not totally wrong.
And I will go there … there are people griping about this who are sincerely concerned about the direction of the sport (I’m one of them) but there are others who are just pissed off that moving forward (and none of this is going to change, as someone mentioned in another post, it will all work itself out but IMO neither the NCAA nor the schools nor the coaches nor the courts nor Congress is going to “fix” anything) players won’t be gladiators performing for the fans’ entertainment anymore without compensation that exceeds free college, and fans aren’t going to outrank the players in the grand scheme of things anymore.
And I will go there … there are people griping about this who are sincerely concerned about the direction of the sport (I’m one of them) but there are others who are just pissed off that moving forward (and none of this is going to change, as someone mentioned in another post, it will all work itself out but IMO neither the NCAA nor the schools nor the coaches nor the courts nor Congress is going to “fix” anything) players won’t be gladiators performing for the fans’ entertainment anymore without compensation that exceeds free college, and fans aren’t going to outrank the players in the grand scheme of things anymore.
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:00 pm to Mohican
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They used naive kids and fans to justify it to the public.
Yeah, they are so naive to want get paid for working.
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:05 pm to WG_Dawg
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coaches aren't amateur student athletes
Neither are players at big colleges. The only reason they were considered amateurs is NCAA rules not allowing players to be paid.
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