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re: Piece of one of the infamous Cam Tapes.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:17 pm to Quigley
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:17 pm to Quigley
quote:Yeah to prove that Cecil isn't credible, but it doesn't prove Cam's knowledge. That is the point for those of you that suck at logic and reasoning.
I love the "I was lying then, but I'm not lying now" line
A friggin 1L in their first trial competition could rip that crap to shreds.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:20 pm to RT1941
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RT1941

I am just pointing out what was said but non-aubs about the situation. I believe someone said they heard details of this awhile back from someone with knowledge of the situation. Not sure how good the info is just repeating it. And it is plausable with what has been said.
This post was edited on 3/2/11 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:21 pm to WDE24
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WDE24
I guess I'm just preping for the AU defense of Cecil if it is comes out that he brought UT & AU into the bidding with MSU.
Personally, I agree with you 100% on Cecil's character flaws, he has many for a professed man of God.
Listen, Auburn fans are stuck between a rock and a hard place right now. You've gotten blasted from every angle possible since this shite hit the fan back in November.
I'll give y'all credit for standing firm in your belief in the Newton's though. I'm not so sure I would have been this loyal to a player and his family had he played for my school.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:23 pm to RT1941
This is my issue with Auburn fans - Either Cecil is a liar or he's not.
He said he shopped Cam to MSU without Cam's knowledge. Is this the truth or not?
Now it's reported that Cecil was shopping Cam to MSU with offers from UT & Auburn. Is this the truth or not?
Since people either always lie or always tell the truth.
I have not heard any Auburn fan defend Cecil since he admitted trying to get money for Cam.
He said he shopped Cam to MSU without Cam's knowledge. Is this the truth or not?
Now it's reported that Cecil was shopping Cam to MSU with offers from UT & Auburn. Is this the truth or not?
Since people either always lie or always tell the truth.

I have not heard any Auburn fan defend Cecil since he admitted trying to get money for Cam.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:24 pm to RT1941
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I guess I'm just preping for the AU defense of Cecil if it is comes out that he brought UT & AU into the bidding with MSU.
If it is said in the tapes, if there are tapes. There is not really a defense needed. Nothing is able to be proven from that. Now if anything with ties to someone at auburn came to light, then a defense would be needed.
This is really nothing new. Just because something is said on tape, the NCAA still needs to prove it. And there is precedent for that.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:25 pm to RT1941
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I'll give y'all credit for standing firm in your belief in the Newton's though.
You astonish me with your inability to read and comprehend. You spent so much time in ATPB land, that you impart that fiction on everything you read. Change your lenses bro.
I have never stood firm in any belief in the Newton's.
I wish people on the rant had the ability to read and respond to what a poster actually writes as opposed to what they think that poster believes based on the logo next to their name.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:25 pm to WDE24
Sure let's just forget the fact that we're also basing Cam's knowledge/lack of knowledge off of Cecil's statements.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:27 pm to Quigley
quote:Are we really? I thought we were basing it on the NCAA's statement that their investigation turned up no evidence of Cam's knowledge.
Sure let's just forget the fact that we're also basing Cam's knowledge/lack of knowledge off of Cecil's statements.
Even if we were, it just proves we can't trust Cecil, it still doesn't prove Cam's knowledge. Seriously, just use a little common sense.
FTR-I am not arguing that Cam didn't know, just that it hasn't been proven and being able to call Cecil's veracity into question does nothing to prove it.
This post was edited on 3/2/11 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:29 pm to Quigley
Sure let's just forget the fact that we're also basing Cam's knowledge/lack of knowledge off of Cecil's statements.
That is what this country was built on. A man is guilty because we think we know what happen.

That is what this country was built on. A man is guilty because we think we know what happen.


Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:31 pm to WDE24
Yeah I don't accept your premise and you don't accept mine so this is pointless.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:33 pm to Irons Puppet
When you're taking an admitted liar's word as proof of something yes that is exactly what is happening.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:35 pm to Quigley
quote:Not really. My premise is factual and logical. your premise is neither.
Yeah I don't accept your premise and you don't accept mine so this is pointless.
Just because you can prove Cecil is a liar, doesn't mean you can prove he lied about Cam's knowledge. If you don't understand that, then you are too dumb to talk to.
This post was edited on 3/2/11 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:38 pm to WDE24
You keep on believing an admitted liar because that sure as hell makes a lot of sense.
Also FTR I don't think he was ever paid anything and I wouldn't care if Cam was paid a trillion dollars and a harem of hookers. Just don't expect people to be willing to swallow a load of bs.
Also FTR I don't think he was ever paid anything and I wouldn't care if Cam was paid a trillion dollars and a harem of hookers. Just don't expect people to be willing to swallow a load of bs.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:42 pm to Quigley
quote:Seriously, are you this retarded? Why don't you start over and read my posts slowly? Look up the words you don't understand and then get back to me.
You keep on believing an admitted liar because that sure as hell makes a lot of sense.
All I said is that Cecil being a liar doesn't prove Cam had knowledge. I didn't say I believed Cecil or that I thought Cam was unaware of what Cecil was doing. What you or I believe doesn't matter. It is what can be proven to a sufficient level to satisfy the NCAA that matters.
This post was edited on 3/2/11 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:42 pm to Quigley
You keep on believing an admitted liar because that sure as hell makes a lot of sense.
Also FTR I don't think he was ever paid anything and I wouldn't care if Cam was paid a trillion dollars and a harem of hookers. Just don't expect people to be willing to swallow a load of bs.
No, we are taking an admitted liar's word until [u]someone[/u] can show evidence to the contrary . Do you have any teenage kids ?
Also FTR I don't think he was ever paid anything and I wouldn't care if Cam was paid a trillion dollars and a harem of hookers. Just don't expect people to be willing to swallow a load of bs.
No, we are taking an admitted liar's word until [u]someone[/u] can show evidence to the contrary . Do you have any teenage kids ?
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:46 pm to WDE24
Sophistry.
And I understand your argument I just think it's worthless.
And I understand your argument I just think it's worthless.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:46 pm to Quigley
quote:Why?
And I understand your argument I just think it's worthless.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:49 pm to WDE24
Because we're arguing past each other about points that neither one of us can concede without further knowledge of what was and was not actually relied on by the NCAA. My point is worthless too I just wanted to get you guys to admit that these arguments are ridiculous.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:55 pm to Quigley
Because we're arguing past each other about points that neither one of us can concede without further knowledge of what was and was not actually relied on by the NCAA. My point is worthless too I just wanted to get you guys to admit that these arguments are ridiculous.
We will go away when the haters stop trying to show proof of something that does not exsist to date. Tell Moore, Bond and Redfish to STFU.
We will go away when the haters stop trying to show proof of something that does not exsist to date. Tell Moore, Bond and Redfish to STFU.
Posted on 3/2/11 at 3:59 pm to Irons Puppet
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Moore, Bond and Redfish to STFU.
Thankfully, I don't know them personally so gonna have to pass on that

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