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re: Permanent rivals. The best version so far.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:26 pm to HorninHouston
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:26 pm to HorninHouston
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Of course people care about LSU. Isn't this an LSU site?
That's the unspoken secret.
It stems from the fact that LSU's OG rivals left the conference leaving the Tigers as one of the few SEC teams without a true rival. Ole Miss would be the closest, but they claim State as their rival, and LSU fans would rather think they're above the Rebels due to the lopsided series record since the 70s, but just watch what happens when LSU loses to - or upsets a ranked - Ole Miss.
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Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:32 pm to ArmydawgMD
Arkansas gets Missouri and Moo State.
Nobody wants Arkansas and Missouri to play all the time, especially the two teams stuck together. As for Moo State, the games tend to be interesting but Arkansas has much deeper feuds with LSU and Ole Miss.
Missouri and Kentucky? At least Mizzou vs USC has the battle for Columbia going for it.
Nobody wants Arkansas and Missouri to play all the time, especially the two teams stuck together. As for Moo State, the games tend to be interesting but Arkansas has much deeper feuds with LSU and Ole Miss.
Missouri and Kentucky? At least Mizzou vs USC has the battle for Columbia going for it.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:36 pm to Arksulli
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At least Mizzou vs USC has the battle for Columbia going for it.
Manufactured and fake. Mizzou and USC give zero shits about each other. The SEC had to create a fake rivalry to help prop up the fact they put Mizzou in the SEC East. That "rivalry" is the one that triggers me the most. It's completely fricking fake.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:51 pm to G&P
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SEC 3 Permanent Opponents (Balanced for Rivalries, TV, & Competitive Fairness) Alabama – Auburn, LSU, Tennessee Auburn – Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss Georgia – Florida, Auburn, South Carolina Florida – Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina Tennessee – Alabama, Florida, Vanderbilt LSU – Alabama, Ole Miss, Texas A&M Texas – Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Arkansas Oklahoma – Texas, Missouri, Mississippi State Texas A&M – Texas, LSU, Arkansas Ole Miss – LSU, Mississippi State, Auburn Mississippi State – Ole Miss, Kentucky, Oklahoma Arkansas – Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri Missouri – Oklahoma, Arkansas, Vanderbilt South Carolina – Georgia, Florida, Kentucky Kentucky – South Carolina, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt Vanderbilt – Tennessee, Missouri, Kentucky
Looks good. Nice job!
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:59 pm to HorninHouston
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...the campus was buzzing when they showed up
I don't remember the campus ever buzzing in the 80s when Arkansas showed up.
Arkansas was actually pretty steady in terms of the quality of their teams. Lou Holtz took over from Broyles in '77 and had some really talented teams a couple of years, including the ambush/shellacking they put on us in 1981 for our only loss of the season. After Broyles fired Holtz and hired Hatfield instead they never built a juggernaut, but they were always competitive with their flexbone offense. Quinn Grovey was one of the best wishbone quarterbacks I ever saw.
But the game always fell on the week after OU, which overshadowed it, and as you're insinuating, the SWC always had more talented teams in the conference, whether it was SMU pre death penalty, A&M under Sherrill/Slocum when they beat us 11 out of 12 years, or even UH with the run and shoot, which culminated in the 1990 game where DKR was really rocking. Arkansas simply didn't compete. And it didn't compete because no one really viewed it as a rivalry on the Texas side.
Sure, if you ever went to Fayettenam you got a great sense of the rivalry. It's true today. But it's not reciprocated. For a fanbase that knows what a real rivalry looks like, it amuses me for people like you to try to fit that label on Arkansas, when the fact remains most Texas fans don't care about Arkansas even a little bit. Not really.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 1:03 pm to ArmydawgMD
quote:You are one of my baws but…
ArmydawgMD
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LSU - Ole Miss, Auburn, Texas A&M
Posted on 8/23/25 at 1:07 pm to SL Xpress
Not so fast my friend. They may win the majority of them but they sure won’t be “gimmes”.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 1:18 pm to SL Xpress
Graduated in 1985 and my parents, grandparents, wife, in laws and daughter all went to the UA. To a person, each had or does have a deep hatred of Texas and so do all of my classmates going back at least to Jr. High. I didn’t have to teach my kids to hate Texas ….. the first thing that came out of the womb was an arm with a horns down sign. Same with my grand kids.
It’s fine if you don’t consider us a rival but we’re going to be up for every game and it makes for a great season whenever we win. The horns should be proud that you’re the object of our “affection.”
It’s fine if you don’t consider us a rival but we’re going to be up for every game and it makes for a great season whenever we win. The horns should be proud that you’re the object of our “affection.”
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Posted on 8/23/25 at 1:28 pm to ArmydawgMD
Why is this being discussed, it was already determined who the three were for each team prior to last season.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 1:41 pm to G&P
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All legacy rivalries locked: Iron Bowl, Cocktail Party, Red River, LSU–Bama, Egg Bowl, UT–Bama, LSU–Ole Miss, Texas–A&M.
DSOR as well…
Posted on 8/23/25 at 1:55 pm to Arkyologist
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They may win the majority of them but they sure won’t be “gimmes”
It's a troll statement.
I can't actually predict the future. Sarkisian could go to the pros next year and Texas is right back at square one. I do think as long as Sarkisian is in Austin and he's fully engaged, Texas is going to be really good. But I don't think it much matters what kind of schedule Texas has in the SEC.
I don't even give a lot of credence to this concept of the SEC schedule being so easy last year. Plenty of the "easy" teams Texas beat last year beat many of the really good teams. Arkansas beating Tennessee is a perfect example of that.
But I enjoy pretending that A&M, OU, and Arkansas are easy wins every year because it's fun to do so.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 1:57 pm to CharlotteSooner
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You people
Posted on 8/23/25 at 1:57 pm to SL Xpress
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it amuses me for people like you to try to fit that label on Arkansas, when the fact remains most Texas fans don't care about Arkansas even a little bit. Not really.
To be fair, neither of us are qualified to speak for “most texas fans” all I know is it’s important to me and my family.
I have a feeling it’s going to be our 3rd permanent opponent regardless because it is important to them.
Get used to the idea, even if most on our side don’t care.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:06 pm to Arkyologist
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The horns should be proud that you’re the object of our “affection.”
I have a lot more respect for the football history of Arkansas than 99.9% of the posters on this board. It's amazing to me how dismissive SEC fans are of anything Arkansas or OU accomplished pre-SEC.
I am well aware of Arkansas fans' feelings towards the Longhorns.
I made a huge stink out of it when Mack Brown scheduled home and home series with Arkansas - TWICE - while he was the coach. There was simply no way Texas players or the staff were going to be ready for how up the Razorback players/staff were going to be for those games. And they weren't.
But I went to school at UT. I have been an avid fan all my life. I go to luncheons/breakfasts/happy hours with UT fans. I go to home and away games - not all of them, but a lot of them. I'm simply saying what I've observed, and that's if a fan isn't in their 70s, and they're not from northeast Texas, they simply don't think about Arkansas very much. They're much more likely to think about the instate schools, and we don't care about them very much either other than A&M. And all of those schools hate our guts and would consider us their #1 rivalry as well.
BTW, in basketball it's a little different. I don't think contemporary Longhorn fans think about Arkansas much, but for those of us who are passionate about Longhorn basketball, we most definitely think of Arkansas as our historical rival much more than OU or A&M. Those battles between Lemons/Sutton and Penders/Richardson were classics. We lost something when Arkansas took that to the SEC. I feel good about our chances to rekindle some of that with Calipari and Miller. I absolutely loathe Calipari - I did before he became a Razorback - but he's extremely good at playing to the crowd. I feel like this basketball season is going to have a little extra juice when Arkansas and Texas play one another.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:16 pm to HorninHouston
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Get used to the idea, even if most on our side don’t care.
I don't actually care who the third opponent is.
The 9 games is important because it gives us 4 home SEC games every year. Frankly, I'd personally be delighted if A&M were rotated off the schedule, and that isn't going to happen. I'm pretty indifferent to Arkansas, other than they are going to get up for that game every year way more than we do. It's simply the dynamics.
I'm glad the game is important to you and your family. I realize I'm not an authoritative source in terms of what all Longhorn fans think, but I observe what I observe. It's easy to draw out a level of passion when it comes to talking about OU or A&M with Longhorn fans. If I sense any passion when it comes to Arkansas, it's either people who are old, people from the northeast part of the state, or people like you with families who have kept the torch alive. Which isn't very many at all. If I get any reaction at all it's more of a "yeah, I guess I'm supposed to care about them. Wasn't that a big deal way back in the day?" And that's at best. Mostly it's a blank stare.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:28 pm to SL Xpress
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Arkansas simply didn't compete.
And yet up to 1991 Arkansas was 3rd in SWC titles behind Texas and A&M, had a winning record vs A&M (and everyone else in the SWC not named Texas), and had the 2nd most conference wins and all-time wins in the SWC.
Arkansas was arguably #2 in the old Texas League. That the league itself wasn't very competitive is the topic for another thread.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:35 pm to ArmydawgMD
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Arkansas- Missouri, Texas, Miss St
This is ridiculous.
It should be Texas, Texas A&M, and Ole Miss. Those are all long time rivals.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:41 pm to Harry Boutte
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That the league itself wasn't very competitive is the topic for another thread.
But I don't care.
The SWC schools sucked for the most part. I look down on all of them, Arkansas included. I certainly look down on A&M. Texas absolutely owned that conference. Why would I care who had the 2nd or 3rd most conference titles? Texas is 57-23 against Arkansas. That's not a rivalry. That's a beatdown.
OU was traditionally the measuring stick, except in the 60s when Arkansas had their glory years, and Beano Cook made the genius move of sliding the Texas/Arkansas game to the end of the season and made it a national television broadcast. But a great decade doesn't make it a rivalry. Caring about the opponent makes a great rivalry. The only programs that applies to for the Longhorn fan base as a whole are the Sooners and the Aggies.
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:44 pm to Sooner a Reb
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It should be Texas, Texas A&M, and Ole Miss. Those are all long time rivals.
so who does Arkansas play for Thanksgiving?
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:49 pm to ArmydawgMD
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USC- UK, Georgia, UF
No
No way.
Georgia yes but definitely not UF. And UT would make more sense than KY.
KY is going to get Vandy and UT and maybe LSU.
There's a better way to figure this out though.
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