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re: People can slam the Dolphins, but
Posted on 9/29/22 at 11:11 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 9/29/22 at 11:11 pm to JesusQuintana
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last weeks injury
Tua got up shaking his head. You do that to clear the cobwebs.
The nfl doctors of the 70s and 80s were notorious for pushing players back onto the field regardless of the players safety. They were rich doctors that did this. Nothing has changed.
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Posted on 9/29/22 at 11:21 pm to JesusQuintana
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JesusQuintana
So you expect the dolphins to disagree with the evaluation of an actual neurologist and say “nah, I don’t care what the brain doctor said. You have a concussion and can’t play”?
Absolutely the Dolphins are complicit to some degree. They should have not only gotten a third opinion but maybe also a fourth opinion.
Tua is a starting NFL QB - the most valuable asset any team can have - under contract for millions of dollars. You're telling me that they should not have acted more sensibly to protect that asset in a more meaningful and conservative way - especially after the way Tua left their game only five days previously?
There are some things you just don't take chances with, particularly given his injury history. You're dadgum right the Dolphins team screwed up. And that's only from a business sense.
And note, this has NOTHING to do with my alma mater and it's players in the NFL. I'd say the same thing about Joe Burrow if he were in the same situation.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 11:27 pm to JesusQuintana
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It’s black and white
Nothing about the practice of medicine is black and white
Posted on 9/29/22 at 11:38 pm to iglass
I’m telling you that if your starting QB is cleared to play then you should play him yes.
I’m also telling you that getting his head slammed on the ground tonight has nothing to do with what happened last week. What happened tonight could have happened if he had been home on his couch last Sunday.
The facts are he was evaluated by actual doctors not affiliated with the team and with nothing to gain and everything to lose, and it’s completely illogical to believe they were lying for no reason at all. Yes, I most definitely fall in this camp over the internet doctors posting on this forum
I’m also telling you that getting his head slammed on the ground tonight has nothing to do with what happened last week. What happened tonight could have happened if he had been home on his couch last Sunday.
The facts are he was evaluated by actual doctors not affiliated with the team and with nothing to gain and everything to lose, and it’s completely illogical to believe they were lying for no reason at all. Yes, I most definitely fall in this camp over the internet doctors posting on this forum
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:04 am to Taurus 357
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The defender wasn’t even flagged on the play. I don’t even think he’s going to be fined for the tackle. He could have tried to roll off Tua when he went to the ground.
None of this is relevant.
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But this injury was a precursor from last week’s game and Tua clearing this sham of a protocol. And Tua himself said he felt fine. But I don’t think the medical staff did enough for Tua. Especially after his hit from last week. They could have made the decision to rest him for a few weeks but it’s a Win first league. What happens when you don’t have the guy anymore? Not gonna win much without him.
The only thing that suggests last weeks game had anything to do with the injury tonight is the unprofessional opinions of people who did not evaluate him and have no actual knowledge of his condition saying they know better than the medical professionals who did evaluate him.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:13 am to lsufball19
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Nothing about the practice of medicine is black and white
I wouldn’t go that far.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:18 am to JesusQuintana
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JesusQuintana
I’m telling you that if your starting QB is cleared to play then you should play him yes.
I’m also telling you that getting his head slammed on the ground tonight has nothing to do with what happened last week. What happened tonight could have happened if he had been home on his couch last Sunday.
The facts are he was evaluated by actual doctors not affiliated with the team and with nothing to gain and everything to lose, and it’s completely illogical to believe they were lying for no reason at all. Yes, I most definitely fall in this camp over the internet doctors posting on this forum
Everyone else not named JesusQuintana, the above paragraphs illustrate the difference between "knowledge" and "wisdom".
Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:55 am to JesusQuintana
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McDaniel only needed two layers of protocol to know his quarterback was concussed — his left eye and his right.
The Athletic
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:21 am to JesusQuintana
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I’m a filthy rich neurologist already. I have two homes, a Mercedes Benz and a smoking hot blonde half my age that fits my balls in her mouth. I’m risking that why?
A. How do you think he got filthy rich in the first place?
B. You’re questioning why a billion-dollar industry would do everything in its power to enhance its product?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:57 am to JesusQuintana
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:44 am to TX Tiger
So the NFL, in some nefarious conspiracy theory, is risking the largest lawsuit anyone has ever seen…not only that, they’ve somehow convinced and independent neurologist to risk his medical license, livelihood and possible jail time all so a QB can play in a regular season game.
Somehow, this is more logical to large groups of people than the simple answer that he was evaluated and not concussed.
Simply amazing
Somehow, this is more logical to large groups of people than the simple answer that he was evaluated and not concussed.
Simply amazing
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:10 am to JesusQuintana
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So the NFL, in some nefarious conspiracy theory, is risking the largest lawsuit anyone has ever seen…not only that, they’ve somehow convinced and independent neurologist to risk his medical license, livelihood and possible jail time all so a QB can play in a regular season game.
If you think life (and business) is that simple, perhaps you should experience more of each.
The NFL: Sets protocols that leave a lot to judgment.
The docs: Are chosen by specialty and history. They also answer the question they are asked. And if they want to stay on the sidelines and tell patients they are the team doc, they better get it right. Nobody has to tell them that. If you strike a star player in a crucial game on a concussion protocol, suddenly you are spending Sundays in front of your TV set instead of on the sidelines.
The players. Can fake their way through some part of the protocol. They’ve been doing it since high school. Tua absolutely knew the questions and the answers. “Why did you stumble?” “It’s my back, doc.”
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 7:13 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:12 am to JesusQuintana
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Yeah, frick doctors. We need the evaluations of random dudes who watched a video clip.
Yeah I see what you mean but…
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:25 am to JesusQuintana
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So the NFL, in some nefarious conspiracy theory, is risking the largest lawsuit anyone has ever seen…
You realize that the NFL has already settled a lawsuit alleging just that for over $750 million right? Or do you think that they wrote a check that size as a gesture of goodwill?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:33 am to JesusQuintana
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Tua was evaluated by a THIRD PARTY medical officer and cleared to play.
It's much easier to pay off a third party to say what you want them to than it is for your team's staff that's monitored by the NFL
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:39 am to BowlJackson
So instead of believing that he just wasn’t concussed, we believe that the NFL is paying off third party doctors (who have literally everything to lose if discovered) to clear players for random Thursday night games in the middle of the season.
Just absolutely astounding
And when Tua comes out and says he wasn’t concussed y’all won’t believe that either. There is literally nothing that will convince you because you trust your own expert analysis from your coach. It’s truly mind blowing
Just absolutely astounding
And when Tua comes out and says he wasn’t concussed y’all won’t believe that either. There is literally nothing that will convince you because you trust your own expert analysis from your coach. It’s truly mind blowing
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:48 am to JesusQuintana
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So instead of believing that he just wasn’t concussed, we believe that the NFL is paying off third party doctors (who have literally everything to lose if discovered) to clear players for random Thursday night games in the middle of the season.
What's easier to believe? That someone displaying concussion symptoms in front of millions of people had a concussion? Or that a professional sports team would do something shady and potentially risky to gain a competitive advantage?
Random Thursday night games still count in the standings, and the dolphins have a good team this year and are trying to get the playoff monkey off their back
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