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re: Paul Finebaum Casts Doubt on SEC’s Elite Status This Season
Posted on 6/27/25 at 1:58 pm to RunningJacket
Posted on 6/27/25 at 1:58 pm to RunningJacket
Everyone always paid for some players. Some schools did it better than others. The difference now is that it is legal and even the honest donors can pay for players. This gives the wealthier schools a huge advantage. You no longer recruit with coaching, programs, and facilities, but simply with highest bids.
Before NIL, a few players went to the highest bidder. Now, most players so.
Your crying about cheating still doesn't refute the statement that the SEC has been the dominant conference since the mid-2000s. That is the clear data, as championships are easily measured.
Before NIL, a few players went to the highest bidder. Now, most players so.
Your crying about cheating still doesn't refute the statement that the SEC has been the dominant conference since the mid-2000s. That is the clear data, as championships are easily measured.
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:05 pm to BhamTigah
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Everyone always paid for some players. Some schools did it better than others.
Some schools didn't care about getting caught as much as some others. They had a lot less to lose in academic and political circles.
Sure everybody "cheated" to some degree, but Texas could have ALWAYS out-cheated most/all schools.
So why didn't they?
Integrity.
To Texas, cheating at the Bama and Oklahoma level was too unethical, risky, and too flagrant to mess with. So we did the best we could with the players we got.
But now look.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:12 pm to BuckI
Who?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:15 pm to MtVernon
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Texas could have ALWAYS out-cheated most/all schools.
So why didn't they?
Maybe they did and just sucked at other aspects. Texas never lacked talent.
Why are y'all assuming your school didn't cheat. Schools had no control over what fans/boosters did.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:19 pm to BhamTigah
quote:The SEC dominated then for the same reason you say the wealthier schools do now, because they had an unfair advantage. The best players always went to the highest bidder. NIL only leveled the playing field and upped the prices.
Everyone always paid for some players. Some schools did it better than others. The difference now is that it is legal and even the honest donors can pay for players. This gives the wealthier schools a huge advantage. You no longer recruit with coaching, programs, and facilities, but simply with highest bids.
Before NIL, a few players went to the highest bidder. Now, most players so.
Your crying about cheating still doesn't refute the statement that the SEC has been the dominant conference since the mid-2000s. That is the clear data, as championships are easily measured.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 2:30 pm to BhamTigah
Yeah but if you look at all non playoff bowl games, because you cant realy count those as real bowl games, by SEC teams, its alot of teams that are jokes and they even lost several of them.
plus they play three super weak small non conference teams each year whereas everyone in nation plays two, and some of those superweak small teams they lost too, which is pitiful,
Between playing those shitty non conference teams and their own easy and Shitty SEC teams, it was much easier to get to big bowl games and playoffs and they even got to play their own easy shitty teams in the playoffs and in alot of those national title games too, thus making it the same as staying in thier own easy conference while in playoffs and title games. Once the playoff expanded to 12 and they played more non SEC teams they all got beat and sent home with no national title. And they play laughable bowls alot when not in playoffs, and losing several of them.
And thats all when people were saying SEC was and is better than all.
But if you look at the time texas was said to be good. but not better than all, they beat these powerhouses non conference teams in bowl games.
Ohio St., Michigan, USC (2nd greatest team ever), LSU and won several other bowl games
And only had three losses in bowl games, one they shoulda beat Alabama in title game if McCoy didn't get injured and another one of thier only three bowl losses came from a great Oregon team
Seeing the biwl results against power house non conference opponents and the three superweak small school non conference teams the SEC plays every year it makes Texas look much more impressive
And thats only when people said Texas was good, not better than everyone like people said about SEC
plus they play three super weak small non conference teams each year whereas everyone in nation plays two, and some of those superweak small teams they lost too, which is pitiful,
Between playing those shitty non conference teams and their own easy and Shitty SEC teams, it was much easier to get to big bowl games and playoffs and they even got to play their own easy shitty teams in the playoffs and in alot of those national title games too, thus making it the same as staying in thier own easy conference while in playoffs and title games. Once the playoff expanded to 12 and they played more non SEC teams they all got beat and sent home with no national title. And they play laughable bowls alot when not in playoffs, and losing several of them.
And thats all when people were saying SEC was and is better than all.
But if you look at the time texas was said to be good. but not better than all, they beat these powerhouses non conference teams in bowl games.
Ohio St., Michigan, USC (2nd greatest team ever), LSU and won several other bowl games
And only had three losses in bowl games, one they shoulda beat Alabama in title game if McCoy didn't get injured and another one of thier only three bowl losses came from a great Oregon team
Seeing the biwl results against power house non conference opponents and the three superweak small school non conference teams the SEC plays every year it makes Texas look much more impressive
And thats only when people said Texas was good, not better than everyone like people said about SEC
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:03 pm to Cimarron
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The BIG has four schools if you count USC.
Michigan, Ohio State, USC. Who’s the fourth?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:05 pm to Hyena531
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Yeah but if you look at all non playoff bowl games, because you cant realy count those as real bowl games, by SEC teams, its alot of teams that are jokes and they even lost several of them. plus they play three super weak small non conference teams each year whereas everyone in nation plays two, and some of those superweak small teams they lost too, which is pitiful, Between playing those shitty non conference teams and their own easy and Shitty SEC teams, it was much easier to get to big bowl games and playoffs and they even got to play their own easy shitty teams in the playoffs and in alot of those national title games too, thus making it the same as staying in thier own easy conference while in playoffs and title games. Once the playoff expanded to 12 and they played more non SEC teams they all got beat and sent home with no national title. And they play laughable bowls alot when not in playoffs, and losing several of them. And thats all when people were saying SEC was and is better than all. But if you look at the time texas was said to be good. but not better than all, they beat these powerhouses non conference teams in bowl games. Ohio St., Michigan, USC (2nd greatest team ever), LSU and won several other bowl games And only had three losses in bowl games, one they shoulda beat Alabama in title game if McCoy didn't get injured and another one of thier only three bowl losses came from a great Oregon team Seeing the biwl results against power house non conference opponents and the three superweak small school non conference teams the SEC plays every year it makes Texas look much more impressive And thats only when people said Texas was good, not better than everyone like people said about SEC
Did you have a stroke?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:10 pm to jchamil
I think the truth gave you a stroke
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:22 pm to Hyena531
The big 10 is so much stronger than SEC now that Oregon and USC are there.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:23 pm to BuckI
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The Southeastern Conference (SEC) has arguably been the top conference in college football since the mid-2000s.
However, its dominance may be waning, as a Big Ten team has won the last two national championships; the Michigan Wolverines claimed victory in 2023, followed by the Ohio State Buckeyes in 2024. In both instances, no SEC team made it to the national championship game This year, Finebaum is questioning whether there is an elite team in the SEC.
If Mizzou can beat Ohio State so there is your answer to reason why is that. Competition is a lot tougher than in the SEC than in the B1G.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:23 pm to jchamil
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Michigan, Ohio State, USC. Who’s the fourth?
Penn St
Indiana
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:29 pm to BuckI
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Penn St
Indiana
What year did they win national championships?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:39 pm to jchamil
Made the playoffs.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:44 pm to BuckI
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Made the playoffs.
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In terms of schools, Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Tennessee, OU, Texas, Florida and Georgia have all won national titles since 2000. They're all capable. That's 8 schools. The BIG has four schools if you count USC.
That guy was wrong about the SEC as well. It's only 7, Tennessee hasn't won since 1998.
7 SEC schools and 3 Big 10 schools have WON national championships since 2000.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 3:46 pm to jchamil
How come you keep bringing up 20 years ago when the article is talking about now?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 4:00 pm to BuckI
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How come you keep bringing up 20 years ago when the article is talking about now?
I responded to someone's post regarding NC's from 2000-2025. Not that hard to keep up.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 4:09 pm to jchamil
You're right. But 7 teams still makes the point. There are a lot more teams in the SEC capable of winning one, and I think Tennessee is still one of teams that can.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 4:25 pm to BuckI
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Not according to Paul.
He’s not really renowned for being predictive as much as being controversial. Everything goes in cycles. SEC simply has more high caliber programs so they’ve got more balls in the hopper so to speak. However OSU has been on par with the SEC since Urbz fingered a few buttholes in Columbus and got them running more like a competitive outfit in recruiting and player development.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 4:35 pm to Diego Ricardo
quote:Ohio State has been a football power for over a hundred years. Tressell won a national title and played for 2 more before Urban arrived. He also largely recruited the undeafed team under Meyer. That was a poor take on your part.
However OSU has been on par with the SEC since Urbz fingered a few buttholes in Columbus and got them running more like a competitive outfit in recruiting and player development.
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