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re: Ole miss will get off with self imposed.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:13 am to SheaForHeisman
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:13 am to SheaForHeisman
quote:I don't disagree with this. It's a slimy tactic regardless of how it is used.
I just said I don't care in what capacity it is used, it should NEVER be allowed.
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:16 am to TSUNgummybear
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Please inform us of the "16 other" when there is 15 level one violations to begin with.
TIA, jackass.
Oh, excuse me, 14 other level one violations my bad. That makes it so much better.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:22 am to CousinEDDIEEEE
Never said it makes it better. Just proving my point that you're just here spewing crap, and not reading any of this. Leo is responsible for 4-5 level one's, therefore there would be 10-11 remaining. Take the foil cap off, and read and do just a little bit math.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:25 am to OliverQueen81
IF the COI went by the new penalty matrix it would be 85 scholarships over 5 years, zero official visits, and like 10 year bowl ban. this is a fact and i like pizza
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:25 am to GreyReb
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From the Ole Miss scout and Rivals boards, they said yesterday went extremely well
Of course they'll say this. Well in what regard though? What constitutes a day in front of the COI going "well"?
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Leo Lewis had some tough moments with NCAA.
The same people who said he wouldn't show up and his allegations would be thrown out, then said that OM was pushing to "cross examine" him, are now saying "well, he DID show up and we DIDN'T cross examine him, but believe us he had some tough moments". Riiiiight. Forgive me if I don't buy what your media (and ONLY your media) continually tries to sell.
Why is it that zero media outside of OM media are echoing the talking points we see from your media? Could it be that they, unlike your media, aren't buying the BS from Bjork and crew?
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:27 am to TSUNgummybear
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Never said it makes it better. Just proving my point that you're just here spewing crap, and not reading any of this. Leo is responsible for 4-5 level one's, therefore there would be 10-11 remaining. Take the foil cap off, and read and do just a little bit math.
Spewing crap would be what your administration and media have thrown at the OM fanbase for the past 6 months.
I admit I apparently didn't look hard enough at the level ones and who all was involved with each my apologies sir.
Good luck with the NCAA
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:28 am to SheaForHeisman
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don't like this tactic at all, I'm not even talking about it in the context of Ole Miss and Mississippi State. It is a slimy and dirty tactic that the NCAA will use to try to pin down programs, y'all may be laughing and poking fun at Ole Miss but if one day the script flips and you're the one at the end of the NCAA's barrel. I can sure as hell tell you that you wouldn't want them basically bribing players with immunity to give them dirt.
I'm telling y'all this is a VERY DARK road that the NCAA and Division I Programs are going down and I don't like it one bit
This would be troublesome, were it even remotely true. Leo is, and always was, just a corroborating piece of evidence. They had Farrar's calls and texts to the booster. They had evidence, and approached Leo and asked for his testimony simply to put a bow on it. Call it a lesson learned from Miami. The fact that he went to MSU is a coincidence. Had he signed with Bumfrick U, they still would have approached him for his testimony. I know you won't believe this, because Yancy and David told you not to, but it's 100% true. Sorry.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 9:40 am
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:29 am to TSUNgummybear
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Leo is responsible for 4-5 level one's
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Take the foil cap off
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:33 am to Diamondawg
Agreed
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:38 am to TSUNgummybear
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Leo is responsible for 4-5 level one's, therefore there would be 10-11 remaining
So even if by some miracle the COI decided to ignore the text from Barney (they won't), the texts/calls from the booster and his assistant (they won't), and throw out Lewis' testimony and remove those Level 1s (they won't), OM still has double digit level 1 violations.
Don't forget, you committed violations WHILE under investigation. You had no atmosphere of compliance and the NCAA said that your admin didn't rise to the level of "exemplary cooperation".
The hammer. It's going to hit you hard and it's going to hurt.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:41 am to bamasgot13
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Leo is responsible
I had issue with this statement. How many coaches have been fired? How many boosters have been disassociated?
Yet this kid, who got paid 3 years ago and who corroborated evidence almost 2 years ago and who was cleared by the NCAA to play every game since, HE"S the one responsible? gtfo
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 9:46 am
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:43 am to TSUNgummybear
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Ole Miss is responsible for all of the level one's
FIFY
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:44 am to bamasgot13
Also don't forget Football will be the 3rd team to go on probation from this investigation. LOIC and FTM are guaranteed.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:47 am to Vecchio Cane
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I had issue with this statement.
The "he is responsible" is not my phrasing. I was quoting. I think the guy means Leo's name is associated with 4-5 of the Level 1s. The adults who cheated are responsible, for sure, but let's not get it twisted. These kids know they aren't supposed to take money in their recruitment. He knew what he was doing was wrong and he's fortunate to have the immunity deal.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:49 am to Whereisomaha
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This is a lie as Doug Buckles came on Bound's show and explained, but even if it were true it wouldn't make it ok.
That is actually a great listen. Buckles basically heard Bound's was talking shite and called into the show unannounced. The pompous POS Bounds crawfished so bad he left scratches in the floor.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:52 am to TonyMontana
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They had Farrar's calls and texts to the booster. They had evidence, and approached Leo and asked for his testimony simply to put a bow on it.
Honest question, Where are you getting this?
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:52 am to GreyReb
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From the Ole Miss scout and Rivals boards, they said yesterday went extremely well for Ole Kiss in front of the COI and that Leo Lewis had some tough moments with NCAA...Now who knows if that matters or not. The COI could lay the hammer. No tweets from Wolken and Forde yet pumping NCAA is a good sign for Ole Miss as well. Although we could easily just be grasping for straws
what I want to know is how anyone on your boards actually knows how the COI went? How do they know Lewis had some "tough moments"? Sometimes I think home team boards make stuff up to keep their subscribers happy with content.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:52 am to TonyMontana
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They had Farrar's calls and texts to the booster. They had evidence, and approached Leo and asked for his testimony simply to put a bow on it.
Honest question, Where are you getting this?
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:53 am to RB10
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I've said from the beginning it's going to be a 3 year bowl ban (probably including 2017) and 4-5 scholarships per year for 5 years. That's not the death sentence that most are hoping for, but losing that much quality depth is enough to plant you in the cellar of the SEC for a good 5 or 6 years.
That's pretty much a slap on the wrist considering how much time and effort the NCAA has put into this.
I've been thinking a 2 year bowl ban (including 2017) and more like 7-10 scholarships a year over 3 years and probation for 5 years total. And I'd also expect show causes for Freeze and several other staff members
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 9:56 am
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:54 am to bamasgot13
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The "he is responsible" is not my phrasing. I was quoting.
Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you said that
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He knew what he was doing was wrong and he's fortunate to have the immunity deal.
No doubt.
If you get a chance, read the chapter in Flim Flam where Auburn's Dave Didion explains immunity. He was an NCAA enforcement staffer and returned to AU as Associate AD of Compliance. He makes clear what LL was facing and why he got immunity.
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