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re: Ole Miss police looking for men who defaced James Meredith's statue
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:42 am to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:42 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Vandalism isn't criminal?
If I'm guessing correctly, vandalism must result in some sort of damage.
Westlaw is taking forever but I'm going to post the Mississippi vandalism statute once it loads.
Also, keep in mind that this incident may have occurred in a free speech area, is on the campus of a state-owned university, and involved a monument/statute, so there may be a controlling federal statute or case law on point, which I don't care to research since no one is paying me for it
Also, I'm not going to look up particular cases of vandalism of statutes in Mississippi.
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 9:44 am
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:44 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
quote:I don't know all of the statutes that could potentially be involved in this case, but generally speaking, hate crime statutes involve crimes targeted at a specific victim and not something as broad as this, which, if defending these two morons,I would classify as protected political/social speech.
Can this be considered a hate crime?
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:44 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
I emailed Dan Jones calling for their heads. It was similar to my letter requesting the removal of Pete Boone and Houston Nutt from the United States.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:47 am to Oxford
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mean it could've been discussed between a group but who knows? I fricking hope they get caught
My thing is this:
Most likely, some bag of douche had a Georgia state flag hanging in their room and it isnt there now. That alone could get people talking. Then throw in the fact that multiple people most likely knew about this and for every person that knows the chance of it spreading goes up exponentially. People have a hard time keeping their mouthes shut.
And this isnt even taking into account the high likelihood of them being on caught on camera at some point.
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 9:51 am
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:47 am to Hardy_Har
Hoping they do. And the people that did this are obviously dumb enough to make mistakes due to the things they yelled as they walked away, but we'll see.
And I'm still learning my way around the rant. Still a shite poster and not funny at all, as referenced by my awful first ever post (but then again, I guess that means I fit in). I just had to say something on this because it particularly pissed me off. I'm glad I didn't have an account yet when all the "riots" went down
And I'm still learning my way around the rant. Still a shite poster and not funny at all, as referenced by my awful first ever post (but then again, I guess that means I fit in). I just had to say something on this because it particularly pissed me off. I'm glad I didn't have an account yet when all the "riots" went down
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:50 am to WDE24
I didn't think it had to be a specific person. Like if someone goes and spray paints swastikas on a Synagogue.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:51 am to RebFeBrees
quote:Especially when 25 large comes into play. I'd roll on absolutely anyone
People have a hard time keeping their mouth shut.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:53 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
quote:Don't know for sure. I think there is a federal act regarding hate crimes and probably 40-50 different state laws dealing with the issue. I haven't read a single one, so you might be right.
I didn't think it had to be a specific person. Like if someone goes and spray paints swastikas on a Synagogue.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:55 am to RebFeBrees
And the fricking $25k. I wouldn't give a shite if it was one of my friends or not.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:56 am to SwayzeBalla
25K >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My friends, easily
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:00 am to 2close2Gainesville
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Race relations are hitting a head. Can't really blame blame it on black or white. Blame it on politics. It's a divide in this country, we are all just pawns in the game.
While I agree that our political climate has gotten toxic if our politics is drawing race relations to a head then there's something very wrong beyond the liberal/conservative divide.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:01 am to Tornado Alley
quote:No damage, but they did hurt the statues feelings. (Along with the sensitive sensibilities amongst the plethora of Ultra Libs everywhere)
but did the perps damage the statute?
OMG, they put a rope and a piece of cloth on top of a piece of inanimate bronze.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:01 am to BRAVEHEART
Ugh
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:02 am to RebFeBrees
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People have a hard time keeping their mouthes shut.
Especially when they have nothing to lose.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:04 am to SwayzeBalla
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And the fricking $25k. I wouldn't give a shite if it was one of my friends or not.
COLD AS ICE
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:07 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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I already got raped by the BBC. The new season of Sherlock sucked.
I laughed
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:10 am to SwayzeBalla
Miss. Code Ann. 97-17-67 - Malicious Mischief
(1) Every person who shall maliciously or mischievously destroy, disfigure, or injure, or cause to be destroyed, disfigured, or injured, any property of another, either real or personal, shall be guilty of malicious mischief.
If this is the controlling statute, which it's unlikely considering the circumstances of the incident, the perpetrators cannot be charged criminally or civilly.
Miss. Code Ann. 37-11-19 - Injuring school property
If any pupil shall willfully destroy, cut, deface, damage, or injure any school building, equipment or other school property he shall be liable to suspension or expulsion and his parents or person or persons in loco parentis shall be liable for all damages.
Miss. Code Ann. 65-7-23 - Signs, traffic control devices, memorials, cultural or historical markers; damaging; offense: penalties
(1) 1) Any person willfully defacing, removing, marring, damaging or destroying any sign or guide board, including any railroad crossing sign or flasher signal, or other traffic control device erected as provided shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be liable for the actual cost of replacing or repairing such sign and shall be fined not less than Two Hundred Dollars ($200.00) nor more than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00), or be imprisoned in the county jail not more than six (6) months, or be punished by both such fine and imprisonment. If the offender is a minor, the parents of such minor shall be civilly liable in accordance with Section 93-13-2 for the actual cost of replacing or repairing the sign, signal or device.
(1) Every person who shall maliciously or mischievously destroy, disfigure, or injure, or cause to be destroyed, disfigured, or injured, any property of another, either real or personal, shall be guilty of malicious mischief.
If this is the controlling statute, which it's unlikely considering the circumstances of the incident, the perpetrators cannot be charged criminally or civilly.
Miss. Code Ann. 37-11-19 - Injuring school property
If any pupil shall willfully destroy, cut, deface, damage, or injure any school building, equipment or other school property he shall be liable to suspension or expulsion and his parents or person or persons in loco parentis shall be liable for all damages.
Miss. Code Ann. 65-7-23 - Signs, traffic control devices, memorials, cultural or historical markers; damaging; offense: penalties
(1) 1) Any person willfully defacing, removing, marring, damaging or destroying any sign or guide board, including any railroad crossing sign or flasher signal, or other traffic control device erected as provided shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be liable for the actual cost of replacing or repairing such sign and shall be fined not less than Two Hundred Dollars ($200.00) nor more than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00), or be imprisoned in the county jail not more than six (6) months, or be punished by both such fine and imprisonment. If the offender is a minor, the parents of such minor shall be civilly liable in accordance with Section 93-13-2 for the actual cost of replacing or repairing the sign, signal or device.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:10 am to Tornado Alley
Cliffs?
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:11 am to TMRebel
TMREBEL said "No, but seriously. It's a very touchy subject, especially for those of us actually from Mississippi. I, for one, am tired of being associated with racists and bigots simply because of the actions of the few and idiotic. $25,000 is pocket change, and honestly I hope they get caught and their lives are ruined so they finally realize what this type of hate does to people."
Yeah, $25K is pocket change according to several of your recruits too. Nothing like throwing the green stuff at an 18 yr old.
Yeah, $25K is pocket change according to several of your recruits too. Nothing like throwing the green stuff at an 18 yr old.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:12 am to Tornado Alley
Did you try Miss Code Ann. § 97-17-39?
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