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re: Official tRant SEC Big Dance Quarterback champion - Joe Burrow

Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by GaryGator
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:40 pm to
They've already been posted.

Burrow has a QB rating of 173.2.
T Tebow has a QB rating of 170.3.

Total TD's passing for JB is 91.
Total TD's passing for TT is 88.

Total TD's rushing for JB is 13.
Total TD's rushing for TT is 57.

Total TD's for JB is 104
Total TD's for TT is 145.
Tebow is clearly the better overall qb.

This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:48 pm to
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1 top 5 in Heisman voting.


lulz, also the most lopsided Heisman win in history. But frame it however you need to, to bring Burrow down to Tebow’s level.

Only 15-0 season in SEC history.
Most yards (by far) in SEC history.
Most passing TDs ever.
Most total TDs ever.
Biggest Heisman win in history.

Ever, ever, history, history history. These are terms you use when discussing Joe Burrow. Your guy was very good, and consistent, though. You just diminish Tebow when you try to compare anything he did at his very best to what Burrow did this season.
Posted by GaryGator
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:52 pm to
You keep ignoring that mediocre 2018 season.
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:52 pm to
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Who was best? For a year or a career?


My question as well. If we're talking a single season, Burrow. Career - Tebow.

Some thoughts to ponder:
- I am biased towards 4Y players vs 1Y wonders. There is much to be said for players who go through personnel changes and still get it done. Not to say Burrow couldn't, it's an unknown. Tebow proved it.
- If one was HC and could only sign one, who would you sign? I realize that's contingent upon what type offense is being run.
- Burrow never had a bad game. Not one in 15 games. I don't think that could be said about Tim in any season.
- Burrow has a pocket presence unlike any thing I've seen at any level of the game by anyone.
- If both were on the same team at peak levels, who would you start?
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:52 pm to
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Figured I’d get no answer. Pussy fricks

A college Quarterback has you melting all over a free message board.
Posted by iliveinabox
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:54 pm to
By your own logic, jb had a terrible season and managed to eclipse tb in one less season in passing tds, but is a worse qb? Noted.
Posted by GaryGator
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:55 pm to
You keep ignoring the substantial difference in rushing yards and rushing td's.
Posted by GaryGator
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:57 pm to
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Burrow never had a bad game. Not one in 15 games. I don't think that could be said about Tim in any season.


Burrow had an entire mediocre season. That can never be said about Tebow, ever.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:59 pm to
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Tebow had the better career. That is what we are voting on right?

No. Best QB, not best group of season's.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:00 pm to
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Total TD's passing for JB is 91.
Total TD's passing for TT is 88.

Total TD's rushing for JB is 13.
Total TD's rushing for TT is 57.

Total TD's for JB is 104
Total TD's for TT is 145.
Tebow is clearly the better overall qb.



Context, bruh. Tebow came in early on in the Meyer tenure behind Chris Leak, who wasn’t a DT QB. He was leaned on immediately to allow Meyer to run his offense. Leak graduated and Tebow had no competition for the job.

Burrow came in to OSU after Meyer had had time to recruit and develop several of his kind of QBs and got in the queue. Tebow would not have played early at OSU had he come in the ‘15 class as he wouldn’t have brought anything to the table that they didn’t already have like he did at UF.

Tebow jumped into the perfect situation at the perfect time to contribute right away. Burrow waited in line and then jumped to a team with a new OC that didn’t even have an offense in place when Burrow transferred in in May.

It’s not apples to apples, it apples to sardines.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:02 pm to
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Tebow. Heisman voting
2007. 1st.
2008. 3rd.
2009. 5th.

He got worse each season.

quote:

Burrow.
2017. Never saw the field.
2018. Not a chance.
2019. 1st

He got better each season.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:03 pm to
Burrow never lost 4 games in a season
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 5:04 pm
Posted by iliveinabox
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:04 pm to
I mean, I think Tebow had a better career. I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise..tb isn't a better qb bro, sorry not sorry
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:08 pm to
Some people are putting a ton of stock into 9-feet TD runs.

Rushing TDs inside the 3 since 2006

Tim Tebow - 33
Anthony Dixon - 23
TJ Yeldon - 23

Rushing TDs from 4+ yards since 2006
Nick Chubb - 33
Sony Michel - 31
Benny Snell - 29
Leonard Fournette - 28
Dak Prescott - 26
Alex Collins - 26
Derrick Henry - 26
Josh Dobbs - 25
and finally... Tim Tebow - 24
Posted by The_SwAUggford
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:08 pm to
Tebow
Posted by GaryGator
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:08 pm to
Tebow never had to transfer to get on the field. Bro.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:08 pm to
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You keep ignoring that mediocre 2018 season.

We're not voting on the 2018 season. We're voting on best college QB ever and Burrow's Heisman margin of victory tells us all we need to know.
Posted by GaryGator
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:13 pm to
The greatest qb ever had to transfer because he couldn't get above 3 string at Ohio State.
Posted by iliveinabox
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:13 pm to
The homie with the weird name already knocked that logic out the park breh
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:14 pm to
So what I gather is that GaryMelter is voting on best Rushing QB, best career of a QB and best QB never to transfer to a better opportunity. The rest of us are voting on best College QB.
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