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re: Official: HBO Takes Down Every SEC School Ever Show
Posted on 3/31/11 at 8:56 am to ThaKaptin
Posted on 3/31/11 at 8:56 am to ThaKaptin
quote:Said he roomed with Ramsey and they were both broke as a joke. He would have known if Ramsey was getting extra money. Also, said he walked out of the same areas after games and met all of the same boosters and he never received anything or saw anything.
I did actually, didnt hear anything about a roomate. When I got in the car they were already on. What was the roomate part about?
EDIT: I cant see your avatar btw WDE, might wanna check its source cause im not behind any firewalls or anything.
Can you see my avi now?
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 8:58 am to bama my heart
quote:I think that is the line they used to have the players comfortable sitting down and answering questions. McClover's HS school coach said as much when he was interviewed.
I think when it started HBO was questioning if the players should get money, because of the amount of money the universities make off of their image/name.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 8:58 am to WDE24
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I think if they happen, it is a couple of boosters who are aware of a few kids financial situation and want to help them out a little.
Who knows, maybe I am being naive.
Problem WDE is that in Pat Dye's mind that is all Auburn was ever doing for E. Ramsey. They were just helping him out. But instead of giving him chopped beef to eat it was steaks. Instead of $100 it $500 and so on and so on. You cant rationalize any benifit because who is the judge of whats "just helping out" and whats "pay for play".
Couldnt listen to the Opening Drive this morning because the Auburn nation has its head in the sand. They need to change the creed to "You can't prove anything" because that's all you ever hear from them. Al Delgreco wants NFL players who have everything to lose with their almamater to break the code of silence but cant understand why 4 would come out. Pugh and Ziemba are still part of the "family". does anyone really expect them to say anything negative. When has AU ever been able to trully enjoy success. Anytime they have ever accomplished anything it was tainted by controversy and scandle.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 8:58 am to WDE24
All of this shite is disturbing to me.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:00 am to 4nmylifetime
quote:I wasn't rationalizing anything. I was just stating what I think might be going on.
Problem WDE is that in Pat Dye's mind that is all Auburn was ever doing for E. Ramsey. They were just helping him out. But instead of giving him chopped beef to eat it was steaks. Instead of $100 it $500 and so on and so on. You cant rationalize any benifit because who is the judge of whats "just helping out" and whats "pay for play".
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:01 am to bama my heart
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Should all players be paid, since some were already getting paid.
No.
I still believe in amateurism. I'm sorry maybe im naive or however you spell that word
but these kids are getting a free education, if they are willing to take advantage of it. If they are not willing to take advantage of it then that is their fault and nobody else's. With that said, do I have a problem with hundred dollar handshakes? not really.
Do I have a problem with thousand dollar duffel bags? damn right I do.
Does that make me a hypocrite? dont know, dont care.
The point is, if a booster decides he doesnt want these kids living as lowly as they are and decides to give them a couple hundred bucks a week to let them enjoy their time in college, I got no problem with that.
If a team is throwing duffel bags full of money at a recruit to get a competitive advantage over other schools at GETTING that recruit, I DO have a problem with it. They are totally different scenarios in my opinion.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:04 am to WDE24
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Said he roomed with Ramsey and they were both broke as a joke. He would have known if Ramsey was getting extra money. Also, said he walked out of the same areas after games and met all of the same boosters and he never received anything or saw anything.
Can you see my avi now?
I didnt hear that part, but I still don't believe him. But thats just me.
And yeah, i can see it now.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:04 am to ThaKaptin
I think that if nobody cheated then the sport wouldn't be as entertaining.
Thank you Auburn, you have made this offseason wonderful.
Thank you Auburn, you have made this offseason wonderful.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:08 am to ThaKaptin
Sorry my reply was a little short, had a customer.
The reason I just dont believe him is after hearing the rest of the interview, it all just sounded like typical AU spin/deflection/plolitical speak. And if the rest of the interview is BS, which I believe it is, then I would assume that part is as well.
The reason I just dont believe him is after hearing the rest of the interview, it all just sounded like typical AU spin/deflection/plolitical speak. And if the rest of the interview is BS, which I believe it is, then I would assume that part is as well.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:12 am to WDE24
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Problem WDE is that in Pat Dye's mind that is all Auburn was ever doing for E. Ramsey. They were just helping him out. But instead of giving him chopped beef to eat it was steaks. Instead of $100 it $500 and so on and so on. You cant rationalize any benifit because who is the judge of whats "just helping out" and whats "pay for play".
I wasn't rationalizing anything. I was just stating what I think might be going on.
Yeah, I didnt mean to imply that you were rationalizing, really trying to just add to your comment (one problem with written -vs- spoken word is intent is not as easily understood).
Gotta get used to recognizing your new avatar as WDE.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:14 am to 4nmylifetime
quote:I'm sticking with the monkey theme, but since I have felt more aggressive lately, I figured I would get the avi to match.
Gotta get used to recognizing your new avatar as WDE.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:15 am to 4nmylifetime
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Gotta get used to recognizing your new avatar as WDE.
Same, its still a monkey, but I'll be damned if I could have put it together without his name up there.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:17 am to ThaKaptin
quote:As long as your avi is an arse, it is pretty easy to match it up with your posts.
Same, its still a monkey, but I'll be damned if I could have put it together without his name up there.
:rimshot:
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:19 am to WDE24
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He would have known if Ramsey was getting extra money.
Do you realize how many families that have kids doing drugs right under their nose? Most often times, it's those closest to someone that is the last to know, even though all the signs are there. Something to think about.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:20 am to WDE24
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As long as your avi is an arse, it is pretty easy to match it up with your posts.
Thats it, you never ever ever get to use my garbage can basketball hoop again.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:22 am to Alahunter
quote:I'm not sure if you ever went to college or had a roommate, but anyone that did understands that you have a decent idea about your roommates' financial situation. I don't think it is the same as a teen using drugs without their parent's knowing.
Do you realize how many families that have kids doing drugs right under their nose? Most often times, it's those closest to someone that is the last to know, even though all the signs are there. Something to think about.
I was on an athletic scholarship and roomed with a teammate. If he was selling tix for $1000 or was getting $500 handshakes, I would have know about it. Also, Ziemba and Ramsey were friends at the time, so don't you think Ramsey would have let Ziemba in on the fun of free money.
Maybe Ziemba is lying or is wrong, but it is silly to blindly accept Ramsey's story as true while ignoring what Ziemba says and vis a versa.
This post was edited on 3/31/11 at 9:28 am
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:26 am to WDE24
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Maybe Ziemba is lying or is wrong, but it is silly to blindly accept Ramsey's story as true while ignoring what Ziemba says and vis a versa.
Not saying Ziemba is lying by any means. All I'm saying, is those closest to the situation are usually the last to know in many instances.
On a side note.. I don't feel like a genuine investigation will occur from this guy, like your AD said.
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"I think it is pathetic and pure garbage," said Chizik, who disputed the charges of the former players.
That doesn't sound to open minded in exploring real possibilities it happened.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:26 am to WDE24
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Maybe Ziemba is lying or is wrong, but it is silly to blindly accept Ramsey's story as true while ignoring what Ziemba says and vis a versa.
I dont necessarily blindly believe ramsey, in fact, of all of them, he is probably the one I believe the least since he has one hell of a major axe to grind, but I just hear the words coming out of both ziemba's and Pugh's mouth (especially pugh btw, that kid has an elequent way of speaking that no jock would ever have without coaching/teaching in professional speaking imo
) and they just sound manufactured.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:36 am to WDE24
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If he was selling tix for $1000
The problem with his story about selling tickets is that player do not get the actual tickets. Instead they must put the individuals name and relationship on a list. That person then must show ID to pick them up and ensure they attended the game. So if he sold his tickets for thousands, especially to a booster, Auburn would have know to whom he sold them to...
Now, if the Auburn records show who attended on Ramsey's tickets and that person is a booster named by Ramsey, then Auburn would have a problem.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:39 am to auburntiger77
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The problem with his story about selling tickets is that player do not get the actual tickets. Instead they must put the individuals name and relationship on a list. That person then must show ID to pick them up and ensure they attended the game. So if he sold his tickets for thousands, especially to a booster, Auburn would have know to whom he sold them to...
Now, if the Auburn records show who attended on Ramsey's tickets and that person is a booster named by Ramsey, then Auburn would have a problem.
Because there is no way he could have possibly had them sold before the season started and listed them as "friend" or "cousin". I doubt seriously they require a validated family tree for proof of relationship on these types of things.
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