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re: Oats system has gotten to extreme on 3s and layups

Posted on 3/27/26 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 10:19 pm to
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bama doesn’t have the NIL to be seriously competitive in CBB.



or CFB.



tDecline is really going to show over the next few years.
Posted by JamalMurry27
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 10:32 pm to
You are just now seeing this? I have been saying since he has been there. Yeah it is exciting and entertaining but you be hard pressed to win a championship playing like that. Going on a 6 game run in the tourney against good competition with that style is nearly impossible.. I guess I’m just now seeing it/ I saw it when we MADE THE FINAL FOUR but ran into the UConn/duke/Michigan team build they we will never get past without big people.
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 10:37 pm to
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Wasn't Bruce Pearl using the exact same philosophy with his Auburn teams? "Shoot from the hip" "Live by the 3 die by the 3"? Basically a "Blitzkrieg" gameplan that relied on quantity of shots over quality of shots?


lol what? No. How could you even think a team with a centerpiece of Johni Broom was the same thing lol.
Posted by JamalMurry27
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 10:43 pm to
You’re never gonna have a game where you shoot 40-48 from downtown. We need a guy t drop the ball to in the post for half hooks when we need to settle down. A guy that can get 10-20 points during the spells we can’t throw it in the ocean
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 10:47 pm to
That’s the weakness of Nate Oats’ gameplan. It needs sheer volume from three. That is extremely hard to string together.

It could happen but man the odds are nasty on that.
This post was edited on 3/27/26 at 10:49 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 10:55 pm to
Huh, I was told repeatedly how wrong I was when I pointed all this out last year with Oats. Hilarious.

It’s not a bad system per se, like any though, it has some weaknesses. When it is on, it is as tough as any out there to beat.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 10:56 pm to
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Wasn't Bruce Pearl using the exact same philosophy with his Auburn teams? "Shoot from the hip" "Live by the 3 die by the 3"? Basically a "Blitzkrieg" gameplan that relied on quantity of shots over quality of shots?


Early on? Sure. Not nearly to the same degree but similar. That ended around 2019/2020 though. This decade hasn’t been that system at all.
This post was edited on 3/27/26 at 10:57 pm
Posted by JamalMurry27
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 10:57 pm to
Brutal pearl doesnt have a title that hear Virginia clipped them by 1
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:00 pm to
I’m still a bit miffed the refs missed that call but it is what it is. Such is the final four where the margins are thin as shite.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:01 pm to
Yep. The 2018/2019 team absolutely killed it from 3. That team however did have a low post presence and a protector. Not to mention some midrange game. While they hit a ton of 3’s and it carried us, they do and could attack other ways when the shot wasn’t falling. I think Oats teams don’t shift out of that mode when adjusting when the 3 isn’t falling, which is a difference in styles.
This post was edited on 3/27/26 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:04 pm to
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Yep. The 2018/2019 team absolutely killed it from 3. That team however did have a low post presence and a protector.


In our defense, we did lose our best defender and a guy that went first round in spite of a torn ACL in the elite eight that year.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:07 pm to
For sure. Just saying that team was probably the last real team we had under Bruce that was just an insane high volume 3 team, but even then, had more options when it wasn’t falling and still had a post and midrange scheme to attack from.
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:09 pm to
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For sure. Just saying that team was probably the last real team we had under Bruce that was just an insane high volume 3 team, but even then, had more options when it wasn’t falling and still had a post and midrange scheme to attack from.


I think calling it high volume is in error. That offense was balanced as hell. Could do everything.

When Chuma went down the O had to change. Was enough to earn a final four at least.
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:11 pm to
Chuma was nightmare on the post. After he went down we did become more one dimensional by nature.

Had we gotten by UVA we’d have obliterated TTU
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:11 pm to
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I think calling it high volume is in error.


I mean, it was the 2nd most made 3 pointers in a season in ncaa history
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:13 pm to
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I mean, it was the 2nd most made 3 pointers in a season in ncaa history


Maybe. But it was never imbalanced. That’s what high volume implies.
This post was edited on 3/27/26 at 11:13 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:18 pm to
Well yea, that’s the point I’m trying to make. Even when our teams were more live and die by the three, they still had a balance to the offense, not nearly the same as this bama system.

To put it into perspective, if the graphic is right, I think with tonight’s game they will finish 4 made three’s short of that team, however I think they played 5 less games. That’s wild.
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:22 pm to
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Well yea, that’s the point I’m trying to make. Even when our teams were more live and die by the three, they still had a balance to the offense, not nearly the same as this bama system.


I get it. It’s hard to rewatch the highlights of that team and not be blown away by the fact that we had an effective mid to short range game to go with that monstrous three point shooting though. With Chuma that team was absolutely complete.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:31 pm to
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but i dont think its possible to win a championship shunning the mid range game unless the shot clock it running out or something...and not even attempting a dump to the post game....seems like a medium could be found in there but i cant argue with his results


How many titles did the Warriors win playing this style?

You just have to have an enforcer on defense like Draymond

Yaxel was probably your missing piece and apparently ya'll didn't recruit him
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:39 pm to
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How many titles did the Warriors win playing this style?


NBA isn’t college ball (yet). Far more skill shooters.
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