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Posted on 12/25/21 at 11:44 pm to Imber
Posted on 12/25/21 at 11:44 pm to Imber
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It's okay to be scared.
Honestly, this is the best part of the hiring. LSU fans actually believe other teams fans are scared of this guy.
Maybe it’s just a troll job and I’m taking it hook, line, and sinker.
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Posted on 12/25/21 at 11:45 pm to A-TOWNUAFAN
No they have really convinced themselves this is the guy. Despite his record vs top 10 teams. Despite his 0-2 record vs Bama.
In fact I did a thread pointing out how they called him a bum before he got the job. It was predictably not received well.
In fact I did a thread pointing out how they called him a bum before he got the job. It was predictably not received well.
This post was edited on 12/25/21 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 12/25/21 at 11:47 pm to A-TOWNUAFAN
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Honestly, this is the best part of the hiring. LSU fans actually believe other teams fans are scared of this guy.
Maybe it’s just a troll job and I’m taking it hook, line, and sinker.
Any reasonable LSU fan doesn't give two shits if other fans are "scared" or not of the hire.
Doesn't really matter either way.
Brian Kelly will either get it done at LSU or he won't, the belief or non belief of fans doesn't mean anything.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 11:48 pm to SidewalkTiger
SPOILER ALERT
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he won't
Posted on 12/25/21 at 11:49 pm to TigerinKorea
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despite their admin raising admission requirements for football players years earlier
When did this happen?
Kelly on his players academics:
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I think we recognized that all of my football players are at risk. All of them, really. Honestly, I don't know that any of our players would get into the school by themselves right now, with the academic standards the way they are. Maybe one or two of our players that are on scholarship.
This is true at most schools but let's not pretend ND doesn't make a ton of exceptions and they're not Duke or Stanford when it comes academics and athletes.
This post was edited on 12/25/21 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 12/25/21 at 11:50 pm to PaulsBunions
Just for the sake of entertainment, tell us who the available coaches were with a good record against top 10 teams and winning record against Alabama.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 11:51 pm to RD Dawg
Posted on 12/25/21 at 11:59 pm to RD Dawg
From the same article that contained the quote you pulled:
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Notre Dame’s standards are well known for being one of the most difficult in the country. High school athletes must have at least four college prep courses and two years of foreign language completed to be admitted. Additionally, recruits must be able to point to specific evidence from within their high school academic record that indicates the capability of meeting the stringent demands of academic life at Notre Dame. But clearing the admittance hurdle is only the first step
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Notre Dame student-athletes are subjected to difficult math courses, such as calculus, as freshmen and must achieve – as well as maintain – a GPA of at least 2.0 by the end of their freshmen year. To put this standard in context, many universities only require one year of foreign language to be admitted, and students do not need to achieve a 2.0 GPA until their junior year
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Understanding the extra hurdles Notre Dame student-athletes must overcome may help develop a clearer picture of why several academic mishaps have occurred over the past two seasons, and why Brian Kelly is telling the media he feels all of his players are at risk due to the standards that are currently in place.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:05 am to SidewalkTiger
And yet...
He's still managed to do less with more than most coaches. He's had more NFL players than Dabo.
He's still managed to do less with more than most coaches. He's had more NFL players than Dabo.
This post was edited on 12/26/21 at 12:09 am
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:08 am to PaulsBunions
Your earlier argument against Kelly is that he had a poor record against the top 10 and against Alabama. So what available coaches have a good record against the top 10 and winning record against Alabama?
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:11 am to PaulsBunions
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He's still managed to do less with more than most coaches.
That's another of your intellectually dishonest "arguments."
You're so eager to troll LSU fans that it's impossible for you to have an honest and logical conversation.
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He's had more NFL players than Dabo.
One more NFL player. Wow.
Is your argument that Dabo is a better or more accomplished coach than Kelly?
Can't really disagree with that.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:12 am to SidewalkTiger
I said they weren't Stanford or Duke I'm absolutely correct. LINK
And I do believe Kelly got ND to relax their standards after the 20 year run with Davie,Wittingham,Charlie Weis,etc.
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The truth is, that Notre Dame’s academic requirements for football players is considerably lower than what is perceived. Take a look at the top 300 recruits each year and check out who Notre Dame offers. They absolutely are unable to offer a few kids, and some are just missing out in one degree or another (core classes). It’s not as bleak as one may think.
If you want some cold hard truth in your face, it is MUCH MUCH harder to gain admittance to Stanford as a football player than to do the same at Notre Dame. And as many people have pointed out, Stanford seems to be the model that Notre Dame should follow (even though they have still been unable to play for a national title in these golden years).
And I do believe Kelly got ND to relax their standards after the 20 year run with Davie,Wittingham,Charlie Weis,etc.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:14 am to SidewalkTiger
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That's another of your intellectually dishonest "arguments."
Which part of data sourced from the NCAA is "intellectually dishonest?"
Seems like any time facts don't agree with you, it becomes a intellectually dishonest argument.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:16 am to RD Dawg
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I said they weren't Stanford or Duke I'm absolutely correct
I don't think anyone thinks they are.
Notre Dame is expected to compete in football nationally a good bit more than a Stanford or Duke.
It's an entirely different level. Stanford and Duke aren't recruiting vs the ACC or SEC for athletes like Notre Dame may be.
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And I do believe Kelly got ND to relax their standards after the 20 year run with Davie,Wittingham,Charlie Weis,etc.
Your article states that Notre Dame's academic standards for athletes have remained relatively the same since the 1970's.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:19 am to PaulsBunions
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Which part of data sourced from the NCAA is "intellectually dishonest?"
Seems like any time facts don't agree with you, it becomes a intellectually dishonest argument.
This part of your statement is completely dishonest:
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He's still managed to do less with more than most coaches.
You can't name 5 coaches who have outperformed Kelly with similar recruiting position, facilities, and resources much less "most."
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:19 am to SidewalkTiger
The fact of the matter is, Angry Cuyler’s criteria for a successful hire (good record against the top 10 and winning record against Alabama) apparently could not have been met. I’m sure if there was an available candidate who would meet his criteria, Cuyler would have pointed him out by now.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:24 am to SidewalkTiger
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You can't name 5 coaches who have outperformed Kelly with similar recruiting position, facilities, and resources much less "most."
Now were moving the goalposts from "hes at a recruiting disadvantage" to facilities and "resources" too. Convienient now that the recruiting disadvantage has been shown to be a myth.
And you have the arrogance to call others intellectually dishonest.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:27 am to PaulsBunions
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Now were moving the goalposts from "hes at a recruiting disadvantage" to facilities and "resources" too.
Facilities and other resources have a direct correlation to recruiting.
Surely you knew this before now...?
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Convienient now that the recruiting disadvantage has been shown to be a myth.
You clearly haven't been following along very well:
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Notre Dame’s standards are well known for being one of the most difficult in the country. High school athletes must have at least four college prep courses and two years of foreign language completed to be admitted. Additionally, recruits must be able to point to specific evidence from within their high school academic record that indicates the capability of meeting the stringent demands of academic life at Notre Dame. But clearing the admittance hurdle is only the first step
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:43 am to SidewalkTiger
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As flawed as analyzing recruiting rankings can be, a quick look at yesterday’s Rivals100 rankings for the class of 2012 shows that the Irish have a better shot at the top players in the country than you might think. After a quick but thorough analysis of reported scholarship offers that the Irish coaching staff have made to next year’s class, the Irish have verbal offers out to 68 of the top 100 players in the country — far more players than you’d expect.
I've yet to see you explain either how he has had top 5 NFL talent yet been embarrassed in big games.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:47 am to RD Dawg
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From the same article that contained the quote you pulled
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RD Dawg
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