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re: Notre Dame in the SEC

Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by whiskeyjohn
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:42 pm to
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17 holy shite... "you can't be an astronaut your almost retarded!"

are most schools cutoff still at 22-24?


I doubt it's that high. I believe 18 is the national average for the ACT score for high school seniors.

Keep in mind that schools do take athletes with much lower ACT scores than what a regular student could get in to school with. There is a report out there from the public universities that show the amount of athletes at certain schools that get the waiver. One school off the top of my head that was very high on the list was Cal. They have a stringent requirement for a regular student but give waivers for over 80+ percent of their football players.

IIRC... Michigan was fairly high on the list as well. If I find the report, I will link it.

edit: here is a back story on waivers...will still try to find the actual percentages.

LINK
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 11:46 pm
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:35 am to
They would be a middle of the pack team, like Texas AM
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8521 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 9:42 am to
Read it and weep, Aggie Initial and Mid-Career Salaries

Vanderbilt is the highest in the SEC at #62. The only place an ND degree wouldn't be worth more is maybe - maybe - Texas.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 9:43 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60617 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 9:48 am to
quote:

I absolutely see them taking the SEC over the Big 10.


Big if, but yah, ND seems determined NOT to join the B1G and become a regional brand instead of a national one. If they had to drop their national games to start playing the likes of Indiana and Minnesota they would be done in football.

ACC is best fit
PAC would probably be next
SEC
B1G
B10 - if it even around in 10 years)
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8521 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 9:52 am to
To answer the OP, I think we'd average out to anywhere from 3rd to 6th most years, at least at the current level of where the program is at.

Average Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings 2011 - 2014:

Alabama 1
Florida 6.75
LSU 8
Auburn 8.5
Georgia 9
Notre Dame 11
Tennessee 14
Texas A&M 14.75
South Carolina 17.25
Mississippi 21.25
Arkansas 28.5
MSU 34.25
Missouri 38.5
Vanderbilt 42
Kentucky 42.75

Average Rivals Recruiting Star Rankings 2011 - 2014:

Alabama 3.86
LSU 3.6175
Notre Dame 3.6125
Florida 3.6125
Auburn 3.6125
Georgia 3.5375
Tennessee 3.4075
Texas A&M 3.3825
South Carolina 3.3375
Mississippi 3.2525
Kentucky 3.0525
Arkansas 3.0075
MSU 2.995
Missouri 2.99
Vanderbilt 2.9425

We tend to have smaller classes with high quality and not much turnover.

We wouldn't compete with Alabama and LSU and perhaps Auburn year-in and year-out right now, but we'd be right there in the next tier down.
Posted by prisonpunk
Member since Dec 2013
1598 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 9:54 am to
Did anybody actually watch the discussion? There was no talk about ND actually joining the SEC. The topic was IF ND played in the SEC what would their record be? IIRC, they thought about 6 or 7 place.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66923 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:13 am to
Notre Dame would do just fine in the SEC.

They won't join because the BCS, or whoever, keeps giving them exceptions to play in the postseason bowls.
Until they're forced, they will not change.

However,

I'd state their best fits are as follows :

1. B1G
2. SEC
Distant 3. ACC.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8521 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:50 am to
quote:

1. B1G
2. SEC
Distant 3. ACC.


No way...I don't think most outside ND and the Big Ten administrations realize just how bad the blood is between ND and the B1G. That will never happen. I promise you that.

The ACC is currently the best fit...smaller and similar student bodies (B1G schools are predominantly Midwestern whereas ND is pretty geographically diverse...no one region of the country has more than 30% of the student body), private schools (six already if you include Pitt as private), elite academics, an East Coast footprint.

The B1G may be a more natural fit than the SEC, but ND would be more likely to try to join the SEC than the B1G were it to come to that. ND doesn't like to limit itself geographically (hence the ACC move), and the venom between ND and the B1G, especially Michigan, is a century long and runs very deep. That will never happen.
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