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re: NIT Watch 2014 (artist formerly known as Bubble Watch)

Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by TN_Tigers
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:48 pm to
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If Dayton loses their conference tourney game tomorrow, they are out. If St. Joe's loses their first tourney game, they are out. Only 1 of those will make it. Dayton needs to win 2, St. Joe's needs to win 1, IMO. Similiar to the Arky/Tenn situation.


Providence/St Johns and Colorado/Cal have bubble implications as well.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:52 pm to
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Providence/St Johns and Colorado/Cal have bubble implications as well.



Oregon/Oregon St was close the last score I saw. Oregon can't lose this one.

Georgetown wasn't really pulling away from DePaul the last update as well.

Stanford still plays tonight for the insomniacs.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:53 pm to
The loser of Providence/St. Johns is definitely out. If Providence wins I think they still need to win one more to be safe. St. John's may need to win 3 games.
Posted by opdogg20
Fayetteville
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:55 pm to
That Stanford game is win or stay home for them. Call me crazy, but I'm picking the Wash State upset.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:55 pm to
Stanford losing would be great.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:56 pm to
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That Stanford game is win or stay home for them. Call me crazy, but I'm picking the Wash State upset.



Stanford loses, so does BYU and Pitt (IIRC), that was both only "good win".
Posted by opdogg20
Fayetteville
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:58 pm to
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Stanford losing would be great.


Ya. Wash State has an RPI of 203.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:01 pm to
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Ya. Wash State has an RPI of 203.



Just playing them is going to hurt.

But it isn't like playing Carolina is going to help Arkansas.

Baylor got strapped with TCU tonight, OkSt beat TTU.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:02 pm to
Arky and UT should be rooting for the following:


Colorado over Cal, Marquette over Xavier, St Johns over Providence(Then St. John's lose their next one), Maryland over FSU, Penn State over Minnesota, Fordham over Dayton, Creighton over Gtown

How many of those actually happen?
Posted by opdogg20
Fayetteville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:04 pm to
Ya. Stanford has to win tonight just to get to 20 wins on the season. How the hell do they have them as a 10 seed with 19 wins?
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:04 pm to
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Penn State over Minnesota


No, we beat them on a neutral site, that would only hurt us.

quote:

Creighton over Gtown


This should be a given.

Oregon 41 Oregon St. 40 at the half.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:05 pm to
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Ya. Stanford has to win tonight just to get to 20 wins on the season. How the hell do they have them as a 10 seed with 19 wins?



The way the RPI works and tabulates the SOS.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:08 pm to
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Penn State over Minnesota


Wouldn't this all but eliminate Minnesota though.

And my list was for tomorrow's game and I also advanced Gtown past Depaul tonight to get to Creighton.
Posted by vol017
Louisiana
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:08 pm to
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Arkansas loses @ Bama who has a winning home record drops damn near out of the tourney.



If that game was played in Jan, it wouldn't have been that big of a deal. But you can't lose to a 12-18 team the last game of the season, regardless of home record, and expect people to shrug it off.

Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43498 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:10 pm to
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If that game was played in Jan, it wouldn't have been that big of a deal. But you can't lose to a 12-18 team the last game of the season, regardless of home record, and expect people to shrug it off.


I would agree, but St. Joes lost to a 14-15 LaSalle team at home that same day and moved ahead of Arkansas...

That was my point.

Every year, Lunardi and Katz saddle up to the balls of some undeserving mid-major, this year it is St. Joes.
Posted by vol017
Louisiana
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:12 pm to
True. Both loses were considered "bad"...nothing should've changed.

Edit: I mean, Arky should have stayed ahead of them, wherever they fell.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 9:13 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43498 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:12 pm to
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Wouldn't this all but eliminate Minnesota though.



Yes, they are generally in the last four out.

But if it became a head to head between the two Arkansas would get in over them so a good neutral site victory is not something you want to have devalued.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:13 pm to
In Lunardi's case its always St. Joes. As the Beach Boys say be true to your school.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43498 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:18 pm to
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In Lunardi's case its always St. Joes. As the Beach Boys say be true to your school.



I know, I'm just saying if you took their record and said it was any other team's record, he would have a sound reason as to why they do not deserve to be in the next next four out...
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
7193 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:23 pm to
Yeah I'm not a big St Joes fan as far as them getting in. Not sure who I'd replace them with though. Maybe Cal if they get by Colorado.

The committee met today and sent in their choices for teams that are "in" and teams "to be considered". If you get 80% you're in. If not you move to should be considered category.
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