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re: NIT Watch 2014 (artist formerly known as Bubble Watch)

Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:05 am to
Posted by DC RaiseHerBack
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:05 am to
Dale, in layman's terms...

Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:50 am to
quote:

LaTech is the favorite.


Based on What? Southern Miss beat them this year and are favored to beat them today.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:54 am to
Southern Miss has more road victories than any team in the nation and also has an RPI or 30.

Only one team in the history of RPI has been left out with an RPI that low. Missouri State at 21 in 2006.

Southern Miss has more victories than them right now and if they beat La Tech today I feel they are in regardless.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:56 am to
quote:


Based on What?


Being the #1 seed in the CUSA tourney while USM is the #4.

They play today, the loser will have to sweat out a NIT bid, neither has a resume to get them an at-large bid.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

They play today, the loser will have to sweat out a NIT bid, neither has a resume to get them an at-large bid.
quote:

Being the #1 seed in the CUSA tourney while USM is the #4.


You lost all credibility with this comment.

There was a 4 way tie for 1st in CUSA. USM MTSU LA Tech and Tulsa all were 13-3.

So if Southern Miss wins today and loses tomorrow you say they are out at 28-6???

And a team like Xavier or Providence with 12 or 13 losses is in over them???

This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

There was a 4 way tie for 1st in CUSA. USM MTSU LA Tech and Tulsa all were 13-3.



And LaTech was the #1 seed in the tournament.

It doesn't matter if there was a tie, LaTech being the one seed means even if they lose today they are guaranteed a spot in the NIT, USM, not so much.

quote:

So if Southern Miss wins today and loses tomorrow you say they are out at 28-6???



It will depend in part to what happens in the other conference tourneys.

It is a realistic scenario.

quote:

And a team like Xavier or Providence with 12 or 13 losses is in over them???



It isn't just about wins/losses it is also about who you beat and who you lost too...
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:20 pm to
Arkansas making the tourney?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Arkansas making the tourney?



A tourney.

NCAAs isn't impossible, NIT most likely.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:27 pm to
Hofstra and Air Force also got left out with a RPI of 30.

I like the Golden Eagles resume and hope they get a serious look if they dont get the auto bid. The committee always seems to throw in a suprise. My suprise prediction would be BYU out and USM in.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:37 pm to
USM played no one on their schedule.

Their only game against a tourney lock was against Louisville who beat them 69-38.

LaTech at least has one good win over OU, but was blown out by OkST.

Each has a bad loss on the road.

The committee isn't going to reward a team with an at-large bid for manipulating the RPI through scheduling while playing no one during the year.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:02 pm to
Florida St. loses to Virginia. 64-51

Finishes 19-13
Posted by opdogg20
Fayetteville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:04 pm to
Illinois out now too.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43501 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:05 pm to
St. Bonaventure beat St. Louis.

St. Louis has had a bad losing stretch to end the season.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

The committee isn't going to reward a team with an at-large bid for manipulating the RPI through scheduling while playing no one during the year.


Ehh they have before, they are somewhat inconsistent. From what I've read they seem to be big on non conf schedule this year though. I dont think the CUSA will get multiple bids.

Winner of Dayton/St Joes will be in decent shape. Providence and Minnesota can improve their resume tonight.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43501 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:55 pm to
Ohio St. leads Nebraska early.

St. Joes leads Dayton.

Pitt is up on UNC.

Florida blows out Mizzou 72-49.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:22 pm to
Updated list from Lunardi:

Last 4 in
St. Joe's
Dayton
BYU
Providence

First 4 out
Arkansas
Minnesota
Florida St.
Southern Miss
Posted by sugatowng
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Last 4 in
St. Joe's
Dayton
BYU
Providence

First 4 out
Arkansas
Minnesota
Florida St.
Southern Miss


sorry Dale...what happens to the loser of the St.Joe/Dayton game? still in? NIT?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43501 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

sorry Dale...what happens to the loser of the St.Joe/Dayton game? still in? NIT?



By Lunardi's logic so far the loser has to fall to at best the first 4 out list.

If it's St.Joes they will become a tourney lock with a loss, Dayton in the last 4 in, according to Lunardi.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43501 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:31 pm to
Obvious push off, no call, St. Joes hits 3 to go up by 2 with 15 secs left.

Dayton tries for a 3 misses. Fouls, St. Joes his 1/2 FTs to go up by 3 with .7 second left.

Sam the Eagle has his St. Joes team beat Dayton.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43501 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:34 pm to
Nebraska blows lead in the final four minutes to fall to Ohio St.

This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 3:35 pm
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