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NIL questions. What happens if players transfer/quit/get in trouble, etc?
Posted on 9/12/22 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 9/12/22 at 3:31 pm
A lot of these boosters are paying these boys big bucks, and they expect production from their investments?
So what happens when players don’t pan out? Don’t live up to expectations?
Get in off the field trouble? On the field trouble?
What happens if they transfer? Quit altogether (Myles Brennan and Canes comes to mind)
This seems like it’s gonna be one huge CF before it gets better. It’s new territory now.
What changes do you think we’ll see? Hope we’ll see?
What other problems/issues do y’all see arising from NIL deals that go sour?
So what happens when players don’t pan out? Don’t live up to expectations?
Get in off the field trouble? On the field trouble?
What happens if they transfer? Quit altogether (Myles Brennan and Canes comes to mind)
This seems like it’s gonna be one huge CF before it gets better. It’s new territory now.
What changes do you think we’ll see? Hope we’ll see?
What other problems/issues do y’all see arising from NIL deals that go sour?
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 3:32 pm to fr33manator
I think the money is theirs no matter what.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 3:33 pm to fr33manator
There's probably a conduct clause in their agreements. Other than that, the money is theirs.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 3:34 pm to BoomerFNSooner
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I think the money is theirs no matter what
Yeah, I'm still not clear if they're allowed to have performance/morality clauses, but for some reason I don't think they can.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 3:34 pm to KaiserSoze99
So if another Aggy football player murders someone with a machete, they’re liable to having their NIL money taken back?
Makes sense.
Makes sense.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 3:53 pm to fr33manator
Serious answer, all NIL does is give the student athlete the right to profit from his, well, NIL. It doesn't protect him/her from getting screwed over (or screwing over) any company they go into "business" with.
Without pretending to be an expert on the issue as a whole, I think we can assume there is a pretty extensive contract in place between the two parties that only gets more extensive as the value of the contract rises. I think we can also assume that no company with a half arse contract lawyer is going to have someone representing them without a plethora of morals clauses imbedded in said contract.
Without pretending to be an expert on the issue as a whole, I think we can assume there is a pretty extensive contract in place between the two parties that only gets more extensive as the value of the contract rises. I think we can also assume that no company with a half arse contract lawyer is going to have someone representing them without a plethora of morals clauses imbedded in said contract.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 3:54 pm to NFLSU
Well in Brennan's case, Cane's, even though started in Baton Rouge has NIL deals with more than just LSU players so I guess he could transfer and take the Cane's NIL deal with him. Since he has quit, I would guess he would fulfill whatever obligations he owes and than Cane's would move on to the next player. Without reading any contract players are signing for NIL I would guess there is stipulations that this NIL deal is null and void if you leave State U or are dismissed from team due to rules violation. There has to be a clause in place governing that.
Let's say Cane's had a deal with Joe Burrow had it been in place at that time. His deal was for his image and likeness and Cane's could keep that deal with him as he moved to the NFL if they desired to but it would likely cost more due to Burrow's success.
Let's say Cane's had a deal with Joe Burrow had it been in place at that time. His deal was for his image and likeness and Cane's could keep that deal with him as he moved to the NFL if they desired to but it would likely cost more due to Burrow's success.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 3:58 pm to fr33manator
Depends on how the contract is structured. Could be installment payments with clauses for conduct and being a member of the school they are currently at when they sign the deal.
But any money paid upfront I’m sure the player is keeping. So a booster gives a player some no show NIL endorsement and then they transfer or whatever in guess they keep it.
I’m sure not dissimilar when the pre-NIL Bagman got stiffed back in the day.
But any money paid upfront I’m sure the player is keeping. So a booster gives a player some no show NIL endorsement and then they transfer or whatever in guess they keep it.
I’m sure not dissimilar when the pre-NIL Bagman got stiffed back in the day.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 4:00 pm to nicholastiger
These are actually written contracts that are signed. If the player fulfills his part of the contract, the other side must pay.
But there are probably stipulations, such as no arrests for a felony.
But there are probably stipulations, such as no arrests for a felony.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 9/12/22 at 4:00 pm to fr33manator
These NIL deals are not allowed to be "performance-based," so the player basically gets the money upfront and doesn't have to give it back if injured or quitting, etc. I guess that it remains to be seen if off-the-field embarrassing or outright illegal actions would be legally considered by the court system as a "performance" of some kind.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 5:21 pm to TheDude321
I’d love to read the fine print in some of these contracts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 5:48 pm to fr33manator
I would think the lawyers and schools have clauses from such situation.
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