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re: NIL is no one's business but the athletes and those who pay it.

Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:19 pm to
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WE and we ALONE make the college sports world go around, not the players



AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah ok.

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if we're paying it, it's our business


How much money are you paying players in NIL?

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and don't you forget it.


Oh shite look it’s a tough guy.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:36 pm to
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Cool. Glad you finally agree with NIL.


I've never disagreed with a persons right to earn NIL money. But nobody has denied players NIL in the history of college sports. The NCAA has never had the authority to do so. Players have always been free to sign an NIL deal at any point, the same as they could sign with an agent at any point, and so on.

What they weren't allowed to do was play college sports after. That is what you have changed. You've denied the NCAA the right to set it's own standards on who it admits and has play sports for them.

You just don't like to acknowledge that.

Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:40 pm to
I'm against tax cuts for millionaires, so we agree on something. But to say the athletes generate no wealth is not true. They make billions for the schools.

Again, if you hate it, don't give.

I do not see why this bothers you so much. More people having money is a good thing. I like it.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:42 pm to
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It is a free market. Players receive compensation that a program feels they are worth.

Athletes took their grievances to the courts like citizens do, and the law ruled on their side. They would be idiots not to take the money. We both would. I doubt Trump can stop it.


No, it's not. It was a free market and then it was destroyed by the courts in rulings which will eventually be overturned.

Players have always had a right to NIL. All you did was remove the NCAA's right to set it's own standards.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:42 pm to
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BuckI


The only fig worse than JamalMurray27.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:54 pm to

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You've denied the NCAA the right to set it's own standards on who it admits and has play sports for them.


Do you want to cry some more over your logical fallacy?

The NCAA has no say in how someone makes money outside of the scope of collegiate athletics. You can pound your fists and scream at the sky all you want…..it doesn’t make your shitty arguments correct.

But I will always throughly enjoy watching you try your best.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:57 pm to
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It is a free market. Players receive compensation that a program feels they are worth. Athletes took their grievances to the courts like citizens do, and the law ruled on their side. They would be idiots not to take the money. We both would. I doubt Trump can stop it.


It really is an incredibly simple concept. Some here just refuse to accept it because they let their emotions overrule logic.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 4:05 pm to
If players were always allowed NIL, then how come a few tattoos put us on probation, and our coach was fired? The NCAA had its chance to settle with the athletes for much less, but refused, so they took them to court and won. This is all the organization's fault, so they brought it upon themselves.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 5/3/25 at 4:31 pm to
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If players were always allowed NIL, then how come a few tattoos put us on probation, and our coach was fired? The NCAA had its chance to settle with the athletes for much less, but refused, so they took them to court and won. This is all the organization's fault, so they brought it upon themselves.


They were allowed to get the tattoos, the NCAA has no power to prevent it.

They were not allowed to play college sports after, that is what they were denied. They were not denied NIL, they were denied a free education and a spot on the roster after receiving it.

The only thing you have changed is saying the NCAA no longer has a right to enforce it's own standards and have to give them scholarships and a free education anyway.

Your coach was fired and got hit with a show cause because he got caught lying hardcore to the NCAA. That's a big time no no because the NCAA is not a government organization, has no subpoena power and relies on voluntary testimony. He was supposed to help uphold the standard.

In reality, you got off extremely easy compared to others. They let you play in the bowl game anyway etc.

Everything else you've said is just you telling me why you believe you are justified in taking away the rights of an entity. Because you disagree with their standards, you believe you have the right to change them in the name of social justice. It's all completely anti free market principles.


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 5/3/25 at 4:36 pm to
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Do you want to cry some more over your logical fallacy?

The NCAA has no say in how someone makes money outside of the scope of collegiate athletics. You can pound your fists and scream at the sky all you want…..it doesn’t make your shitty arguments correct.


The NCAA has no power to deny anyone NIL money or for them to enter into contracts with any other entity. They never have, I assume they never will.

You can not name a single time in history where the NCAA has prevented someone from receiving NIL, or signing with an agent or doing any other action.

What they denied people was a free education and a spot on a roster after doing so. And you have now forced them to do so anyway and call it a free market.

This post was edited on 5/3/25 at 4:37 pm
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 5:03 pm to
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Then why are you even here?



What the hell are you even talking about jack?

I can love something and also DETEST & HATE what it has become right? Why would I want to watch sport that is basically now the NFL light where at least they have only the best players and 4-5 year contracts?

These idiot judges are paid off by lawyers to c9ne t these decisions, its HUGE MONEY and or these are the same lib types who say CFB was a form of slavery etc. No, 50 K dollar scholarships is something many people wish the had.

Why would I want to watch a sport where we know what's going to happen? The Greed will see a few teams form huge conferences and freeze out the smaller colleges and eventually that will lead to an even fewer lot when no one can compete with teams in LA, Boston , New York or Oil Rich Texas, Teams lie Rutgers, Orgon with Nike, Texas and Texas AM will dominate because they will get ALL THE PLAYERS, are you really that naive? Its not about promising a great education and a great chance at the NFL with a great coach like Saban now, its about giving so me 18 year old brat tons of money when he has not proved a damned thong yet.


Morons always destroy a good thing, all these lib judges are all morns. And I have the right to be here to berate whats going on just as much as the next guy.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 5:10 pm to
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What they denied people was a free education and a spot on a roster after doing so


Yeah. That’s pretty fricked up. Glad we were able to get past that.

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And you have now forced them to do so anyway and call it a free market.


It’s wild that you keep bringing up “free market” while talking about a non-profit organization…..
This post was edited on 5/3/25 at 5:15 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 5:13 pm to
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I can love something and also DETEST & HATE what it has become right?


Well we definitely are living in a time with a massive mental health crisis so….sure… why not?

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Teams lie Rutgers, Orgon with Nike, Texas and Texas AM will dominate because they will get ALL THE PLAYERS,


Posted by an Alabama fan.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3233 posts
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:15 pm to
Since it’s the fanbases funding the collectives…
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