re: New Yahoo Report: Federal documents implicate players from Kentucky, Bama, Vandy, LSU, USC

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You have lost your 2 best players for the season, how is that coming out smelling like a rose?

You have already been shite on.

Auburn logic

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and I bet Auburn doesn't forfeit any wins. Can that be said for other SEC teams?

You cheatin' sum bitches!

New from Yahoo. Not much SEC related outside of Brian Bowen.

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There are basketball figures from every level in the documents: Meetings with Nick Stapleton (“Trainer of Collin Sexton, the best rising Sr. PG in America”), Johnnie Parker (“handler of Chimezie Metu”) and financial maven Rudy Cline-Thomas (“He has a close relationship with Festus Ezeli, who may be firing [agent Bill] Duffy”).

Dawkins, 24, provides a roadmap for the quid-pro-quo relationship between the agent world and college coaches. He dangles a high school prospect – five-star recruit Brian Bowen – as potential trade bait for schools to steer their best players to ASM Sports. On the same July day, Dawkins wrote to Miller that he connected with two Big Ten assistants, Dwayne Stephens of Michigan State and Chuck Martin, formerly of Indiana.

The email recounts the interactions from Dawkins’ perspective:

“Dwayne Stephens – Trying to close the deal on Brian Bowen for Michigan State. Trying to do a trade deal for (Spartans) Gary Harris, Miles Bridges, etc”

“Chuck Martin – Trying to close the deal on Brian Bowen for Indiana. I told him if we can work together and if he can push for us to get (Hoosiers) Thomas Bryant and OG Anunoby two projected first rounders from IU this year we can work something out.”

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On Aug. 20, Dawkins follows up on Alkins: “Book at Arizona has the juice with the situation, they’re going to listen to him. Nobody else is involved besides book, the kid and Rodney (the cousin). The mom has say but I think she will depend on Rodney. He can get stuff done.” (Richardson was fired last month after his arrest in the federal probe. He faces trial in April of 2019. Pasternack is now the head coach at UC Santa Barbara, and the school did not return a call for comment.)

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“Markelle fultz meeting was good,” Dawkins wrote to his supervisors on Aug. 20, 2016. “Kid, mom and Keith Williams [Fultz’s workout coach and advisor] came and met with Matt Mirchin from under armour and Ron Johnson. … Keith said I should try to be in Seattle as much as possible with the kid.” (The previous month in an email, Dawkins noted that Fultz projected as the No. 1 pick and was contemplating playing professionally overseas. “What would be the marketplace this late?” Dawkins wrote in an email.)

In the same email, Dawkins summarized a meeting with Apples Jones, the mother of Kansas’ Josh Jackson and a self-styled AAU entrepreneur: “His situation is going to get done at the very end. UA is giving her 10k a month and she’s also getting paid by adidas now — so she’s plenty taken care of. She actually works all of under armours events now and talks to the parents as a “advisor”. I do think she’s honest when she says she has only spoken with (agent) Bj Armstrong at this point. After further dialog I don’t think Duffy will be in there — but you can’t count him out ever. We will have to discuss how we will handle the moms boyfriend moving forward.”

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The incoming freshman in 2016 who appeared of primary interest to Dawkins was Michigan State’s Miles Bridges. The two hail from nearby cities — Dawkins from Saginaw, Michigan, and Bridges from Flint — and documents indicate that Dawkins spent considerable time in contact with the Bridges family and with Spartans assistant coach Dwayne Stephens.

In May 2016, Dawkins’ expense reports list a dinner with Bridges’ parents, and also a $400 ATM withdrawal labeled as “Miles Bridges mom advance.” In the two months of Dawkins’ emails viewed by Yahoo Sports, Dawkins frequently listed Cynthia Bridges as someone he planned to contact. And a July 27 email said he had a “late night” meeting arranged with Miles Bridges.

The next day, July 28, a Dawkins email summarizing the Nike Skills Academy in California reviewed the performance of four college players he labeled “our guys.” Bridges was among them, as were Clemson’s Jaron Blossomgame, Xavier’s Edmond Sumner and Iowa State’s Monte Morris. Blossomgame, Sumner and Morris received impermissible benefits from Dawkins, according to his expense reports.

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We didn't play Bowen. I fail to see how that makes us any worse than we already are.

And these are all just the early leaks. The FBI has so much in the form of evidence that they haven't even sifted through it all (took them forever just to go through the evidence they had on the Haslam/Pilot Co. scandal and this is a far bigger investigation with far more players).

I don't think anyone should think for a second that they're off the hook. It's gonna be a matter of how many and how badly they want to punish those involved. How many examples does the FBI feel are enough? Some may get off only because the prosecutors decide it's too small to worry with in the face of larger incidents.

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which is why im hoping this stuff is the itty bitty stuff just to get people hungry for more, so we are let off easy or skate by

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That's definitely something in your favor. I do think people ought to worry more about what the FBI might do than what the NCAA might do. The feds are filing felony charges against coaches and assistants and federal prosecutors have a 90 percent conviction rate. While the FBI has no intention of going after the schools they are going after coaches involved and that can seriously damage programs.

Whatever the NCAA decides to do afterwards is peanuts in comparison to federal felony charges.

After today’s game, Mark Fox was quoted as saying this stuff happens in the shadows and in darkness.

He was asked if he had ever stopped recruiting a kid because someone close to him asked for money. Just based on these comments, i would bet some coach somewhere will get hammered for something he legitimately had no idea had actually taken place.

What are you even talking about?

And what I am saying is that there is a real possibility that Frank Martin or another coach could get penalized and have had no clue that there was wrong doing.

My point is that Mark Fox said kids were paid under the table and he didn’t know of any kids asking for money. Sooo...what if a guy like Frank Martin were trying to run a clean program but there were underhanded things that happened that he legitimately had no clue about. He and the school would be punished. I’m just saying that’s a real possibility with this whole investigation.