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re: New helmet rule is so fricking stupid

Posted on 9/1/12 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
Somewhere in Avoyelles Parish
Member since Oct 2008
7222 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

One of the reason I hate it is b/c another player can rip the bitch off to make you sit out a play.


There's a stipulation that prevents this. If the helmet comes off as a result of a penalty, the player doesn't have to sit out. The targeting penalty in the SCar-Vandy game is an example.
Posted by joe.liberst
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2012
1002 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 3:15 pm to
The only thng I don't like is that the offense can be penalized for blocking someone without a helmet. If you are running with a limited view and a player that just lost his helment comes out from behind another player and you block him, personal foul.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57886 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Strap your damn helmet up tight and it rarely comes off.
There's no way my helmet could have come off when I played. Bitch was so tight it felt like my ears were on fire after I finally got it off.
Posted by Crimsonpanther13
Somewhere in Avoyelles Parish
Member since Oct 2008
7222 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

There's no way my helmet could have come off when I played. Bitch was so tight it felt like my ears were on fire after I finally got it off.


Same here.
Posted by GonzoLeslie
Alabama
Member since Sep 2011
3695 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 3:47 pm to
Mine wasnt that tight. And I always left one strap unsnapped. It came off once when I got blown up on a kickoff
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

The only thng I don't like is that the offense can be penalized for blocking someone without a helmet. If you are running with a limited view and a player that just lost his helment comes out from behind another player and you block him, personal foul.



I believe that the once a player loses their helmet they are not allowed to continue a football play. So even if the action continues they are to remove themselves or they get a penalty. So in your situation the player you blocked gets flagged, not you.
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 4:13 pm to
Can I ask all you fine folk a question concerning the targeting penalty?

What if, instead of hopping up like the Boss he is, Justice had gotten seriously hurt on that play? He was defenseless and had no knowledge of the coming collision. Those types of situational tackles have often led to very dire harm to players in the past. It looks great in highlight reels, but those don't often show the fifteen minutes of medical attention that the unaware player needs after they are blindsided.

You guys are saying it is the pussification of football, but what if it was your player that gets completely leveled in that instance?
Posted by GonzoLeslie
Alabama
Member since Sep 2011
3695 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 4:23 pm to
So the defense shouldn't be allowed to attempt to break up a pass with a hard hit?

if he doesn't like it, he should go talk to his qb
This post was edited on 9/1/12 at 4:24 pm
Posted by joe.liberst
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2012
1002 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 4:23 pm to
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I believe that the once a player loses their helmet they are not allowed to continue a football play. So even if the action continues they are to remove themselves or they get a penalty. So in your situation the player you blocked gets flagged, not you.


What if he stops but then the blocker comes around someone and did have time to check if he is wearing head gear...

Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

What if he stops but then the blocker comes around someone and did have time to check if he is wearing head gear...



Just stopping is not removing yourself from the play, so I would imagine the helmetless player would still get the penalty. We'll see though.
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

So the defense shouldn't be allowed to attempt to break up a pass with a hard hit?

if he doesn't like it, he should go talk to his qb


A hard hit to the midsection would serve the same purpose, so why should you be allowed to headhunt? Or if you can get to the receiver at the same time as the pass to make that hit, why are you not playing the ball instead of trying to kill the other player?
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 9/1/12 at 5:28 pm to
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Just stopping is not removing yourself from the play, so I would imagine the helmetless player would still get the penalty.

Stopping is good enough; there's no requirement for the player to get away from the other players. The issue for defenders is when they pursue the play or when a blocker disengages and moves towards another player. If either is standing still and an opponent hits them, it's a PF on the player making contact.

You can have offsetting fouls...one on player (helmet comes off) who attempts to participate and the opponent who hits him.

Posted by Razorologist
Member since Aug 2011
1538 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:45 pm to
They are talking about how much it sucks right now on PTI. Said basically what you said. It'll cost a game b/c players inentionally ripped helmets off a lot this past weekend. Showed a clip of it happening to Lattimore.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:48 pm to
I actually kind of like the helmet rule. It will surely put some emphasis on snapping your damn straps and getting a helmet that fits right. Your coach doesn't give a shite how "cool" you look...he's gonna be pissed if you have to miss a crucial play.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:50 pm to
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There's no way my helmet could have come off when I played. Bitch was so tight it felt like my ears were on fire after I finally got it off.


Same here. You didn't even take your helmet off on the sideline...
Posted by ChanBenoit
Broome, Western Australia
Member since Feb 2010
473 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 8:54 pm to
A lot of the guys I see with helmets popping off have an obscene amount of dreadlocks protruding out the back. Frankly there is no possible way they are getting a good fit with all that mess.
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