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Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:48 am to Rabern57
I really don't get the big deal in this. Almost all rule changes of late have benefitted the offense. This is the one rule change that benefits the defense. Your team can still play fast. Waiting ten seconds before you snap isn't going to affect the pace of the game that much because AU doesn't typically snap in ten seconds like Oregon. All the rule does is it gives the defense a fresh set of legs without the bush league faking injuries.
Gus is smart. I am sure he will learn to coach when the offense and defense are given a level playing field.
Gus is smart. I am sure he will learn to coach when the offense and defense are given a level playing field.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:50 am to CNB
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If the offense substitutes the defense has time too as well. It's that simple. No rule change needed IMO.
The problem with this is that the offense can determine when it wants to substitute. The defense cannot do this and has to rely on the offense. Advantage: offense.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:53 am to chattabama
This proposal is basically the equivalent of allowing the team without possession of the ball to call a timeout in basketball.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:54 am to Rabern57
Its got nothing to do with Saban beach, he has won 3 national titles in the midst of this pussy unsportsman like bush league era.
It is about what is right, the DAMN offense shouldn't rule the roost siisy.
This BS rule has made it easy for Saban to be mack dog in college footbal, our offenses cream you guys every year, we had 500 yards on Auburn this year and 600 on TAMU.
The fact is every rule for the last 20 years has favored offensive football.The defenses have been getting screwed for the last 6 or 7 years and this stupid, pussified shyt needs to be stopped, this isn't soccer or hockey that was created to be played continually the whole game, it's freaking football, a game of massive strategy that being played in s CHUMP LIKE way in order to tire out players.
Those teams aren't trying to hurry up a play in 10 seconds ( if you say they are you're a damn liar ) it is in order to stop the other team from substituting in order to get a tactical advantage by being bush league.
It's not football it pussy ball.
Defensives shojld have rights to sub player on their own accord, without the freaking offense having the final say.
It is about what is right, the DAMN offense shouldn't rule the roost siisy.
This BS rule has made it easy for Saban to be mack dog in college footbal, our offenses cream you guys every year, we had 500 yards on Auburn this year and 600 on TAMU.
The fact is every rule for the last 20 years has favored offensive football.The defenses have been getting screwed for the last 6 or 7 years and this stupid, pussified shyt needs to be stopped, this isn't soccer or hockey that was created to be played continually the whole game, it's freaking football, a game of massive strategy that being played in s CHUMP LIKE way in order to tire out players.
Those teams aren't trying to hurry up a play in 10 seconds ( if you say they are you're a damn liar ) it is in order to stop the other team from substituting in order to get a tactical advantage by being bush league.
It's not football it pussy ball.
Defensives shojld have rights to sub player on their own accord, without the freaking offense having the final say.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 2:00 am
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:00 am to chattabama
quote:Because the goal of the game is for the offense to control the game and the defense to defend what they do. Not for the offense to work around what the defense wants to do and when they want to do it. This is a rule that screws with the entire design of the game by allowing the defense to control the offense's play style. The fact they want the rule to not count in the final 2 mins shows how important it is to the game and the offense.
I really don't get the big deal in this. Almost all rule changes of late have benefitted the offense. This is the one rule change that benefits the defense. Your team can still play fast. Waiting ten seconds before you snap isn't going to affect the pace of the game that much because AU doesn't typically snap in ten seconds like Oregon. All the rule does is it gives the defense a fresh set of legs without the bush league faking injuries.
Gus is smart. I am sure he will learn to coach when the offense and defense are given a level playing field.
Saban is smart. He can learn to coach when play style levels the playing field by taking away from his talent advantage.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 2:02 am
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:01 am to S.E.C. Crazy
Put down the bottle before you wake the rest of the trailer park bro.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:01 am to Mizzou to my Lou
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This proposal is basically the equivalent of allowing the team without possession of the ball to call a timeout in basketball.
Except that possession in basketball does not typically last longer than a minute (minute is assuming an offensive rebound) whereas a drive down the field can last anywhere from less than a minute to ten plus minutes.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:03 am to Rabern57
They have 10 seconds to substitute - you do realize the ref will stand over the ball until the players complete the substitution. They can wait 9 seconds and send a guy on the field and the actual time will be more like 15 seconds.
This is so - not American.
This is so - not American.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:09 am to Rabern57
You are FOS, the goal of football is and has been for 130 years to outscore your opponent by scoring on offense or defense.
In the late 80s the NFL put a stop to this horseshyt because they saw it was detrimental to the game, you want to argue with the NFL?
You and your team are bush league imho if your omly reason for not allowing the 10 second sub rule is to try and tire playets out.
Ignorant and STUPID besides being a poor sport.
The defense should be able to sub when THEY WANT TO YOU GET IT.
If I am on the goal line afer an 8 yard pass I want my damn goal line defense on the damn field.
Bush league tactics.
In the late 80s the NFL put a stop to this horseshyt because they saw it was detrimental to the game, you want to argue with the NFL?
You and your team are bush league imho if your omly reason for not allowing the 10 second sub rule is to try and tire playets out.
Ignorant and STUPID besides being a poor sport.
The defense should be able to sub when THEY WANT TO YOU GET IT.
If I am on the goal line afer an 8 yard pass I want my damn goal line defense on the damn field.
Bush league tactics.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 2:16 am
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:11 am to Greg09Ag
I got your trailer park hanging, TAMU is a funny place.
Cheer men.
Cheer men.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:12 am to Rabern57
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Because the goal of the game is for the offense to control the game and the defense to defend what they do. Not for the defense to work around what the defense wants to do and when they want to do it. This is a rule that screws with the entire design of the game by allowing the defense to control the offense's play style. The fact they want the rule to not count in the final 2 mins shows how important it is to the game and the offense.
So you believe, in essence, that offenses can't overcome facing a fresh defense? Do you think Gus can use his offensive schemes to win outright or is it predicated on facing a tired defense? For the record, I think the proposed rule is a tad excessive and that defenses should be allowed to substitute only during every first down. That would give sufficient opportunity for substitutions on both sides without it being every down.
I just don't like the basketball type scores during football games. The last SECCG looked like something out of the PAC12. Something needs to be done to protect defense or college football will start to look like the Canadian football league.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:13 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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If I am on the goal line afer an 8 yard pass I want my dam goal line defense on the damn field.
Call Timeout
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:18 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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If I am on the goal line afer an 8 yard pass I want my damn goal line defense on the damn field.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:19 am to S.E.C. Crazy
quote:The rules were and are designed around the Offense controlling the game and the defense stopping them. Hence the names Offense and Defense.
You are FOS, the goal of football is and has been for 130 years to outscore your opponent by scoring on offense or defense.
quote:Your coach is "bush league" if he wants the rules changed to give him an advantage because the current rules give an advantage to other teams.
You and your team are bush league imho if your omly reason for not allowing the 10 second sub rule is to try and tire playets out.
Ignorant and STUPID besided being a poor sport.
Being a poor sport is whiny because the other team is doing something within the rules your team can't stop. That includes your coach.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:20 am to Rabern57
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doing something within the rules
not for long
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:20 am to AUX3
We will use the 10 seceond rule to get back to playing real football.
You need to get a damn defense, looks more like a Terry Bowden team than a Pat Dye team.
Repeat after me : I cheer for a pussified team.
Bama 3 natoonal titles in the pussified era and 2 close misses.
I bet Pat Dye is ashamed of that type shyt.
You need to get a damn defense, looks more like a Terry Bowden team than a Pat Dye team.
Repeat after me : I cheer for a pussified team.
Bama 3 natoonal titles in the pussified era and 2 close misses.
I bet Pat Dye is ashamed of that type shyt.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 2:35 am
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:31 am to chattabama
quote:I believe Gus could gameplan without HUNH. But the argument that the defense would be any more tired than the offense is as bad as the safety argument. Offensive players run back farther to line up and the play is snapped as soon as they are set. They don't have rules against running a physical style of offense so there shouldn't be one against running a speed based offense.
So you believe, in essence, that offenses can't overcome facing a fresh defense? Do you think Gus can use his offensive schemes to win outright or is it predicated on facing a tired defense? For the record, I think the proposed rule is a tad excessive and that defenses should be allowed to substitute only during every first down. That would give sufficient opportunity for substitutions on both sides without it being every down.
I just don't like the basketball type scores during football games. The last SECCG looked like something out of the PAC12. Something needs to be done to protect defense or college football will start to look like the Canadian football league.
The only reason this rule is being pushed is to hurt teams running the HUNH. If they want to start being all about level playing fields, they would have to start a CFB draft so certain teams don't have an advantage that other teams can't counter with a playing style change. That would only be fair since is supposed to be NFL like rules for CFB too.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:32 am to Rabern57
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Being a poor sport is whiny because the other team is doing something within the rules your team can't stop. That includes your coach.
How did rules in football come about? They weren't all a part of the game when it first originated. A lot of the rules came as a result of seeing an unfair advantage towards one side.
In 1978, NFL implemented the "illegal use of the hands" rule. Prior to that DBS could bump the wide receiver the whole way down the field. That was an unfair advantage to the defense, so they had to make a rule. HUNH without defensive substitutions is an unfair advantage for the offense. Wanting a rule to be made about it is no more whining than proponents of the "illegal use of the hands" rule were whining before it was implemented. It is simply saying that one side has an unfair advantage by being able to substitute whenever they want while the defense has to wait.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:39 am to Rabern57
Maybe this will allow officials to get in position better.
They only missed 10 easy, blatant calls in the Auburn Bama game.
A take down in the endzone from behind the defender wasent called.
The refs don't need to be in hurry up mode Either.
Bush league.
They only missed 10 easy, blatant calls in the Auburn Bama game.
A take down in the endzone from behind the defender wasent called.
The refs don't need to be in hurry up mode Either.
Bush league.
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