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re: NCAA Rules Committee Proposes to Eliminate HUNH
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:09 pm to Bags of Milk
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:09 pm to Bags of Milk
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Again, my only point is that the defense should have the same chance to call their plays as the offense. The HUNH is designed to make sure the defense does not have that chance. Football isn't just a sport of offense. It is a sport that has an offense, defense, and special teams, 3 aspects...not one.
You act like the defense is defenseless here. I'd argue the D has way more liberties in terms of lining up/blitzing from where ever whenever. But like I've said before, you have possession of the football, you should get to dictate when and what you do with it. If the O subs, there is a rule that lets the D sub too - fair. If the O wants to take their 11 guys and play ball, then the D should have to do the same. Once again, you can do the same when you have the ball. Its not like your an innocent victim here.
Oh yeah, timeouts. Those are applicable too
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:10 pm to BUCKMSTR7399
Agree with all the suggestions. Would like to add every offense should be required to line up with two tight endsand two runningbacks on every play.
On wide out will continue to be acceptable, however he cannot go in motion or otherwise try and pull mickeymouse shite to distract the defense.
On wide out will continue to be acceptable, however he cannot go in motion or otherwise try and pull mickeymouse shite to distract the defense.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:11 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Quick thread summary...
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:12 pm to undecided
hopefully it will pass
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:12 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
The rule won't pass.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:14 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Oh yeah, hitch and go and out and up routes are out as well. The receiver may run straight ahead, a ten yard in or out. None of that diagonal bullshite like a post either. Might confuse the defense or tire out the defensive back. Hell, db might turn his ankle if the receiver tries something cute so it is a player safety issue as well.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:15 pm to BUCKMSTR7399
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While we're at it, let's ban putting a man in motion or changing formations to try and trick the poor defenses
Trying to hike the ball before the defense is even set is totally different than trying to out maneuver the defense. If you out flank the defense that is one thing. But if you don't even want to give them a chance to get set, that is flat out being a pussy. Apparently other "stewards of the game" besides Bama folks agree that defense should be part of the game.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:19 pm to Bamatab
If the offense has time to get set, shouldn't the defense be able to?
This rule does't just effect the hurry up. It effects all offenses. Even teams like Bama sometimes run up to the line to catch the defense sleeping.
This rule does't just effect the hurry up. It effects all offenses. Even teams like Bama sometimes run up to the line to catch the defense sleeping.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:20 pm to Bamatab
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Trying to hike the ball before the defense is even set is totally different than trying to out maneuver the defense
Here's a novel concept.....they need to get frickin set. The offense had time to get set, why can't the defense.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:20 pm to Bamatab
What is wrong with you man? If its an ADVANTAGE to your team and WINNING by trying to do the things you're saying, then why not do it? And other than Saban having an issue with it, how in the world is it "pussy" - other than you claiming the D should have a chance to get set too. And why should the O allow the D to get set?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:21 pm to Bamatab
What is being a pussy is not being able to get your d ready for the next play then making excuses and whining.
Sorta like the Eastwood movie when he shoots an unarmed man and says he should have armed himself.
Don't wah wah and cry because your team isn't good enough to "arm" itself each and every play. Don't be a lil bitch in other words. Stfu and do your job like a man.
Sorta like the Eastwood movie when he shoots an unarmed man and says he should have armed himself.
Don't wah wah and cry because your team isn't good enough to "arm" itself each and every play. Don't be a lil bitch in other words. Stfu and do your job like a man.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:21 pm to Killean
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Quick thread summary...
Fat people and a few coaches are supporting a way to prevent in shape players from other teams showing up their team's fat and out of shape asses.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:21 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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hopefully it will pass
hopefully not
College football has always been about adaptation. Offenses change and defenses adjust to the changes. This is no different, and the NCAA should stay out of it. If the offense has enough time to get set, the defense should be well conditioned enough to be set as well. If not, well then too bad.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:23 pm to Bamatab
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Trying to hike the ball before the defense is even set is totally different than trying to out maneuver the defense.
The defense can't get set because they can't make their reads fast enough. Not the offenses fault they can get to the line and make calls faster than your dumb as shite defense
It would be like telling a fast break basketball team "Oh hey you need to slow down because the opposing defense doesn't have time to get set back there" Stop being a bitch and either hustle back or make adjustments so you can get back fast enough
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:24 pm to BUCKMSTR7399
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The offense had time to get set, why can't the defense.
Because the offense is intentionally trying to snap the ball before the defense can get set?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:29 pm to Bamatab
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Because the offense is intentionally trying to snap the ball before the defense can get set?
and this is a problem why? You've got to snap out of it eventually right? With all this logic flying at you
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:32 pm to rocksteady
The offense has possession of the ball. Why in the world the offense is expected to wait until the defense is ready I do not understand.
It is the defenses responsibility to be ready. That simple.
It is the defenses responsibility to be ready. That simple.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:32 pm to rocksteady
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and this is a problem why? You've got to snap out of it eventually right? With all this logic flying at you
The only logic flying at me is that we should just do away with even trying to play defense, because some teams can't compete with the teams that do want to play defense. Hell, we should just go to arena rules football at by the logic of some on this board. It's a good thing that there are some in power that still think that defense has a place in the college game.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:33 pm to Bamatab
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First off, despite what this board thinks, this isn't a rule that Bama/Saban is pushing. Obviously there are other stewards of the game that believe that defense is an integral part of football, and should have an equal opportunity to use strategy in the game. It is definitely a game of strategy, so the defense should be allowed to use it too.
Are you saying that a High School offense is so effective that it takes defensive strategy away from the greatest defensive minds in CFB?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:34 pm to Bamatab
Ok, I'm done here. Dumb Gump is dumb Gump and this is pointless.
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