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re: NCAA removes marijuana from banned drug list

Posted on 6/27/24 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 4:57 pm to
Cannabis use has been shown to reduce alcohol dependence, it's helping some get away from alcohol abuse which is a very good thing.

I'm not sure I've ever seen an angry high person unlike how common an angry drunk is. Maybe if taco bell was closed or the McDonald's ice cream machine was down.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:24 pm to
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Marijuana driving is slo-motion. It’s elderly driving. It’s only dangerous if one gets impatient with granny.


There is a reason there are minimum speed laws. And I doubt very seriously if everybody that smokes it is driving slow.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:28 pm to
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More people will drink less if it is legalized, leading to less drunk driving, which is A LOT more deadly.


Based on what? Because people don't mix drugs and alcohol now? Of course they will do both. And what study shows driving under the influence of weed is safer than alcohol?
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A good portion of drinkers may switch over, and truthfully, probably won't go out as much.

Based on what? So, people who drink and drive will suddenly stay off the roads if they smoke weed?

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o this notion has been debunked.

By you and your faulty logic? hardly.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:30 pm to
Thank you. I had seen some of the statistics in Colorado and a couple of other states. But we have people in this thread trying to say drinkers will switch to weed and it will be safer based on their feels.

Problem is, I think they actually believe what they are saying. That's the scary part.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:36 pm to
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DUIs actually went down after legalization in Colorado and yep, being high on cannabis is cause for DUI.



Local News
Marijuana DUI Arrests Up 48% In Last Year Across Colorado

Traffic Safety

The increase in law enforcement officers who are trained in recognizing drug use, from 129 in 2012 to 221 in 2020, can increase drug detection rates apart from any changes in driver behavior.
The prevalence of marijuana or marijuana-in-combination identified by Colorado State Patrol officers as the impairing substance in a DUI increased from 12% of all DUIs in 2014 to 31% in 2020. The prevalence of citations reported as marijuana-alone increased from 6.3% in 2014 to 8.7% in 2020, while marijuana-in-combination with alcohol or other drugs increased from 5.7% of citations in 2014 to 22.7% in 2020.
The number of traffic fatalities where a driver tested positive** for any cannabinoid (Delta 9 or any other metabolite) increased 140%, from 55 in 2013 to 132 in 2019.
**Note that the detection of any cannabinoid in the blood is not an indicator of impairment but only indicates the presence in the system. Detection of Delta-9 THC, one of the primary psychoactive metabolites of marijuana, may be an indicator of impairment.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:38 pm to
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I'm not sure how the NCAA was supposed to curb DUIs, but alright.


I was talking about the legalization of marijuana in general. I'm sorry your cognitive skills couldn't figure that out.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20919 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:54 pm to
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The number of traffic fatalities where a driver tested positive** for any cannabinoid (Delta 9 or any other metabolite) increased 140%, from 55 in 2013 to 132 in 2019.
**Note that the detection of any cannabinoid in the blood is not an indicator of impairment but only indicates the presence in the system. Detection of Delta-9 THC, one of the primary psychoactive metabolites of marijuana, may be an indicator of impairment.

Fatal alcohol related crashes in colorado managed to increase at the same volume, if not slightly more, during the same exact period.

Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:52 am to
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I was talking about the legalization of marijuana in general. I'm sorry your cognitive skills couldn't figure that out


So your cognitive skills were unable to figure out what the thread was about, but you're questioning mine?

Neat!
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 11:58 am to
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So your cognitive skills were unable to figure out what the thread was about, but you're questioning mine?


The very first sentence in the OP asked "is legalization next?"
Again. Reading is fundamental. I addressed an issue in the OP. That's how message boards work. An OP posts, and then you address what the OP says. Seriously? That's too hard for you to figure out?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:00 pm to
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Fatal alcohol related crashes in colorado managed to increase at the same volume, if not slightly more, during the same exact period.


So, they did go up and not down as some are saying?

Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:00 pm to
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Cannabis use has been shown to reduce alcohol dependence,


It certainly worked for me. Definitely the lesser of two evils IMO
Posted by N0T SURE
Member since Dec 2023
2049 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:03 pm to
I'm not a smoker, but it's really silly that it's scrutinized more than alcohol....should be treated exactly the same as being caught with an open container...no need to ruin a life by sending someone to the pokey for 30 years over some weed.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by N0T SURE
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:04 pm to
Greatest documentary ever made.

×edit* I'm not not sure....i mean my name is not sure.
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 1:07 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9702 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 8:16 pm to
DUI accidents = bad
Pot smoking traffic jams = good

WTF?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20919 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:15 pm to
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So, they did go up and not down as some are saying?


Colorado's population also increased about 10% in the same period. There's a lot of moving parts on these causation/correlation things.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61965 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 7:22 am to
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Colorado's population also increased about 10% in the same period. There's a lot of moving parts on these causation/correlation things.

Sure. But if people want to make statements like " DUI's went down after weed was legalized!", Then I am going to point out that they did not. now you want to change the narrative to justify incorrect statements made in this thread. And a 10% population increase does not explain a 120% fatality increase.

Look. I get it. Younger people want to smoke weed and they will make wild unsubstantiated claims to try to get people to agree with their viewpoint. I'm just trying to correct misstatements and point out the dangers inherent with that stance.

Look above at a section where I copied and pasted from a Colorado government Highway division about DUI's, fatalities, etc. I did not put my opinion at all into that and got down voted. Imagine being so wrapped up in this issue that someone down voted statistical data provided by the state government source.

When people have to lie, stretch the truth and bully to get their way, then they have a problem. (Not aimed at you)
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
72557 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 7:25 am to
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DUI accidents = bad Pot smoking traffic jams = good WTF?


Well one tends to involve people getting killed….
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9702 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:09 am to
Ever been in a parking jam? People aren't exactly pleasant to each other.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 8:10 am
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20919 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:55 am to
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Sure. But if people want to make statements like " DUI's went down after weed was legalized!", Then I am going to point out that they did not. now you want to change the narrative to justify incorrect statements made in this thread. And a 10% population increase does not explain a 120% fatality increase.

Having presence of metabolites still doesn't mean they were high at the time it just means they've used marijuana in the last few weeks. If we tested for alcohol metabolites that stuck around a similar period of time, how big of an increase would you expect to see there we're trying to compare vastly different standards of testing.
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