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re: NCAA Oversight Committee Open to Targeting and Overtime Rule Changes
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:10 pm to AggieDub14
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:10 pm to AggieDub14
“WhAt aRe YOuR bilLbOArDs gOnNA dO?”
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:13 pm to AggieDub14
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The AFCA unanimously supports a model that puts targeting fouls into two separate categories: targeting 1 for hits without malicious intent, and targeting 2 for more egregious hits. Targeting 1 would carry a 15-yard penalty and no ejection or suspension; targeting 2 would result in automatic ejection and possible suspension. Lyons said the way targeting is called on the field and the way it is reviewed in the replay booth are also up for further discussion and review. The committee recommended further study by the football rules committee and football competition committee during their meeting in February.
Great idea. Also think they should go back to the 5 yard incidental face mask penalty as well. Although the judgment calls on both these will still be problematic, it's still better to give the official an option of calling a lesser foul when warranted.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:13 pm to Box Geauxrilla
It's sad that yall are taking credit and glorifying the tantrum.
Cubs gonna cub.
Cubs gonna cub.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:16 pm to elposter
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Also think they should go back to the 5 yard incidental face mask penalty as well. Although the judgment calls on both these will still be problematic, it's still better to give the official an option of calling a lesser foul when warranted.
I thought facemask penalties were generally called correctly back when the 5 yard variety was still around. I still think a 15 yard penalty is stupid if your hand merely grazes the facemask. Like with targeting, it's unavoidable many times. If the goal of these rules is "player safety" then there is no player safety issue if someone touches a facemask without grabbing it.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:18 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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LSU fans making things happen again.
The simple way you fix targeting calls in the SEC is just to kill and eat Jon Bible.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:18 pm to AggieDub14
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It's sad that yall are taking credit and glorifying the tantrum.
Cubs gonna cub.
I'm not going to say LSU is the sole reason for the targeting review this offseason, but they wouldn't be reviewing it if there hadn't been so much outrage nationally about the penalties for it, and LSU fans, per usual, were the loudest in their outrage. I do think they called targeting a lot more this year than they ever have in previous years, and I'm sure every coach in America has been telling the NCAA the penalties for targeting are ridiculous. Why they approved the rule as written in the first place is equally baffling to me. I guess maybe they thought it would rarely be called.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:19 pm to lsufball19
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I'm not going to say LSU is the sole reason for the targeting review this offseason, but they wouldn't be reviewing it if there hadn't been so much outrage nationally about the penalties for it. I do think they called targeting a lot more this year than they ever have in previous years, and I'm sure every coach in America has been telling the NCAA the penalties for targeting are ridiculous. Why they approved the rule as written in the first place is equally baffling to me. I guess maybe they thought it would rarely be called.
A&M safety Donovan Wilson was only flagged TWICE for targeting during this conference as opposed to the 5 times when he's not playing he's normally flagged for.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:21 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
everyone has been complaining for several years So funny they want to take credit
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:23 pm to Tridentds
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Imagine a Bama DB getting flagged for targeting
C'mon man, at least throw of a plausible possibility in your hypotheticalPosted on 1/23/19 at 12:23 pm to AggieDub14
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everyone has been complaining for several years
The calls have gotten out of control and everyone is complaining. LSU fans have just been louder.
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It has been 10 years since the crackdown started on forcible hits above the shoulders of players determined to be defenseless. This season, the NCAA reported 188 enforced targeting calls in 832 regular-season games of the Bowl Subdivision; that is 30 percent more than last year, when there were 144 in 839 games. The per-game average has risen 35 percent, from 0.17 last year to 0.23 this season. It is the fourth consecutive season that targeting calls have increased.
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The number of calls initiated by replay officials more than doubled this year, from 22 to 57. Redding also pointed out that in the last two years the definition of a defenseless player has expanded to include a sliding ball-carrier and a player who is blocked from his blind side.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:27 pm to lsufball19
According to the OP article
2017: 266-87=179 enforced
2018: 275-96=179 enforced
Care to share your source? Mine is ESPN.
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Lyons said there was little change in the number of targeting penalties called over the two seasons during which the rule has been in effect. In 817 games during the 2018 season, 275 targeting calls were made, and 96 were overturned. In 816 games in 2017, 266 targeting calls were made, and 87 were overturned
2017: 266-87=179 enforced
2018: 275-96=179 enforced
Care to share your source? Mine is ESPN.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:30 pm to AggieDub14
Yeah, I just looked, the article I posted was from December of 2017, not 2018. So I guess the targeting calls have flat-lined after the last 4 years. For reference, mine was an AP research study LINK
That's still a shite load of ejections IMO. I'd imagine maybe 1/3 of those warranted ejection nation-wide, and I'm just basing that off games I watch where targeting has been called and I felt it was egregious and had malicious intent. the vast majority are incidental, do not have malicious intent, and do not warrant ejection. Football players shouldn't be afraid of making a football play out of fear they may be ejected. We all can see what a dirty hit is and isn't.
That's still a shite load of ejections IMO. I'd imagine maybe 1/3 of those warranted ejection nation-wide, and I'm just basing that off games I watch where targeting has been called and I felt it was egregious and had malicious intent. the vast majority are incidental, do not have malicious intent, and do not warrant ejection. Football players shouldn't be afraid of making a football play out of fear they may be ejected. We all can see what a dirty hit is and isn't.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:32 pm to lsufball19
I would agree. It's a good change. Automatic suspension was never a good idea.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 1:48 pm to AggieDub14
I love watching college overtime as-is. Its entertaining as hell..... Except for when it is your team then it just becomes frustrating.
Reality is that its just not a good way to determine the outcome of a game though. You spend an entire game playing football, then you have it diminished to nothing but red zone offense and red zone defense. You are taking away huge parts of the game. NFL does it right, the only thing is that I would probably allow for the opposing team to match a TD drive.
then it just becomes frustrating. Reality is that its just not a good way to determine the outcome of a game though. You spend an entire game playing football, then you have it diminished to nothing but red zone offense and red zone defense. You are taking away huge parts of the game. NFL does it right, the only thing is that I would probably allow for the opposing team to match a TD drive.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:24 am to dstone12
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Only team to have a slew of bull shite ejections. Yes.
I know, this isn't targeting either!
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