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re: NCAA has nothing, on fishing expedition
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:03 pm to Central Pork
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:03 pm to Central Pork
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There will be no smack-down of any sort in 2016, OM hasn't appeared before the NCAA Committee on Infractions to plead their case for the NOA allegations. The COI can't rule on a case or hand down penalties/sanctions when they haven't even heard the OM side of the story.
quote:I meant there will be no sanctions or penalties for OM handed down by the NCAA in calendar year 2016. I think everyone knows this investigation isn't just the 2016 recruiting class.
There could certainly be some players ruled "ineligible". And, it's not just the 2016 recruiting class.
They had Tunsil ruled ineligible last season, the NCAA can certainly do the same this year if they feel it's necessary. But the NCAA will impose a post-season bowl ban on OM when the Committee on Infractions hasn't even processed the allegations in the NOA.
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:04 pm to HottyToddy7
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Plus, any sort of admittance of anything improper would then bring up the immediate and obvious follow-up question, “So why are you here instead of there?” That’s an even trickier question to answer.
Not really a hard question to answer:
"I never really wanted to go to Ole Miss. This is where I wanted to be all along, but Ole Miss was doing X, Y, and Z when no one else was so I took advantage of that".
pretty easy answer.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:09 pm to bamasgot13
And because a player at a rival school says that you think the NCAA will just take that? They have to have some proof of it.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:09 pm to bamasgot13
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This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:10 pm to Keltic Tiger
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I am by no means a Finebaum fan, I detest him, primarily for being a bama/saban pimp but too, for being a general shite stirrer to crank up his ratings. But he had a former college coach on while at the SEC league meetings last spring & this former coach, self proclaimed to still be in the loop of conference goings on, said that what he was hearing in talking around the league is that the Mississippi media as a whole was completely backing the Black Bears, to the detriment of their fans. His point being their fans are being sold a bill of goods by the local media & are buying their message. To the extent they will be blindsided when the shite does come down.. One coach's opinion on Finebaum's show so do consider the source/s. That this guy is a Black Bears' beat writer seems to follow what this coach was saying. He's spreading the company line.
This is what I've been saying on this board forever. The media in Mississippi (especially the Clarion Ledger) have gone out of their way to spin everything about the Ncaa investigation. Ole Miss fans are still so stupidly brainwashed that they believe the sanctions will be small and that there is no second letter coming.
I know for a fact that the Ncaa has found far more damaging garbage on Ole Miss since their first letter and they are STILL INVESTIGATING right now as I said 2 weeks ago. Ole Miss fans have a mental defect but it's their arrogance that will bring them down. Ho hum, their own University can lie to them and they like it. Thank you sir may I have another!!
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:10 pm to bamasgot13
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Plus, any sort of admittance of anything improper would then bring up the immediate and obvious follow-up question, “So why are you here instead of there?” That’s an even trickier question to answer.
quote:Also could be:
Not really a hard question to answer:
"I never really wanted to go to Ole Miss. This is where I wanted to be all along, but Ole Miss was doing X, Y, and Z when no one else was so I took advantage of that".
pretty easy answer.
"I knew OM was offering X, Y, & Z and willing to pay me just to visit Oxford, I wasn't interested in playing at OM, so I signed elsewhere." "Now, look at these old text messages from the idiot at OM that told me who to contact to get my $$ for visiting."
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:14 pm to MullenBoys
You stated the NCAA was interviewing recruits before the NOA reply was made public. This article only talks about interviews from after draft night. If this article about is true then your statements about recruits interviewed before draft night is wrong.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:15 pm to TampaReb
Lmfaoooo
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:19 pm to HottyToddy7
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on fishing expedition
Sounds like ole Hugh fished a little too much...
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:20 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
I wonder how many championships Ole Miss will be stripped off
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:20 pm to MullenBoys
This is why you never state facts. After draft night Ole Miss never said the investigation was over so you saying it wasn't is not big news.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:22 pm to TampaReb
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After draft night Ole Miss never said the investigation was over
No just your fans on here...
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:22 pm to MullenBoys
This is why you never state facts. You have been throwing random accusations around so you can always seem right. After draft night Ole Miss never said the investigation was over so you saying it wasn't is not big news.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:27 pm to TampaReb
TampaReb can't help himself. He has a mental issue. He is out if his mind about me being right so often while he told everyone there was nothing to see, it was not about Freeze but instead about Nutt. Go down the list, I made these clowns eat a lot of dirt.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:29 pm to TampaReb
quote:They knew about the "pay to visit" Oxford plan during the recruiting process before kids signed anywhere.
You stated the NCAA was interviewing recruits before the NOA reply was made public. This article only talks about interviews from after draft night. If this article about is true then your statements about recruits interviewed before draft night is wrong.
If they waited til this summer to officially investigate it and get those AU players (and MSU/aTm and possibly Michigan) on record, then they must have been busy investigating the draft night texts between Tunsil & Miller.
Folks have been trying to tell you for the last 6-7-8 months that the NCAA has been interviewing kids about their OM recruitment I don't know why that's hard to accept?
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:33 pm to HottyToddy7
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At some point Ole Miss will have to reconsider its stance towards the NCAA, which has always been one of absolute respect and deference
From the NCAA's Notice of Allegations:
"...violated the NCAA cooperative principle"
"...a failure to cooperate in an enforcement investigation"
"Further, the responsibility to cooperate is paramount to a full and complete investigation,"
"violated the NCAA principles of ethical conduct and
NCAA cooperative principle "
There's about 10 more of these quotes in the NOA.
Not to mention, that if Ole Miss really was cooperating with the NCAA, then maybe they would have turned over those text messages from their own staff, rather than waiting for Tunsil's twitter account to get hacked on draft night.
But, no, we're supposed to believe it was the inept NCAA who couldn't find those texts. I guess they forgot to specify text messages in their requests for documentation from the AD.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:36 pm to HottyToddy7
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But if the NCAA is going around to other Southeastern Conference schools (including Auburn and Mississippi State) and offering immunity to players for “truthful accounts of their recruitment,” as Yahoo Sports reported Thursday morning, then let’s call it for what it is. It’s a fishing expedition, and the NCAA is not leaving until they have caught their limit.
Well in order to fish you first need to know where to go. (or in this case, look)
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So the NCAA is going to do what it is going to do — it’s going to drag this case on for as long as it can, until it gets what it wants and that’s to drop the full weight of its power on Ole Miss’ head. It’s Miami, Southern Call and Penn State now: the NCAA’s enforcement division has decided on a verdict, and now it’s just a matter of building the case to get to it. That strategy has blown up in the NCAA's face before, but all three programs were damaged afterwards. Miami and Penn State are still fighting to get back.
New and Improved Enforcement Staff at the NCAA now -vs- when Miami and Penn State were being investigated.
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Still, maybe something comes of it.
Thus why the "fishing trip". Someone has tipped off the NCAA on who to interview and maybe what questions need to be asked.
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At some point Ole Miss will have to reconsider its stance towards the NCAA, which has always been one of absolute respect and deference. What has that really gotten Ole Miss? Its fans, and I’m sure some people in the administration building, are long past ready to go on the offensive over this. Will athletics director Ross Bjork join them? Ultimately his reputation and career depends on the results of the investigation the same way it does for Hugh Freeze and other members of the coaching staff.
As a voluntary member of the NCAA, OM will continue to bend over and beg for more. Why? OM does not have a choice in this matter.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:39 pm to TampaReb
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This is why you never state facts. You have been throwing random accusations around so you can always seem right. After draft night Ole Miss never said the investigation was over so you saying it wasn't is not big news.
But you have to admit that MSU posters have been dead on about the investigation.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:40 pm to MullenBoys
Keep being to scared give facts and again give me one quote from Bjork where he says it was all Nutt. Not a quote where he says it was mostly past staff AND Tunsil but just Nutt.
If this article is true and they just started interviewing recruits at other schools after draft night you comments in the past before draft night of that happening are wrong.
If this article is true and they just started interviewing recruits at other schools after draft night you comments in the past before draft night of that happening are wrong.
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:46 pm to partsman103
No. Mullenboy was talking about how we were going to get nailed for recutting of Anderson and other kids that came to Ole Miss. Plus he stated that these types of interviews were happening before draft night. If either of those are ture then Forde is totally wrong with his article. He stated that after draft night they focused on Tunsil and have moved to interviewing recruits at other schools. That means all interviews happen after draft night which is different then Mulleboy and nothing on the current Ole Miss recruiting class. Again different then Mullenboy. If Forde is right he is wrong.
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