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Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:00 pm to
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each his own. Protect yourself and if you are afraid, then stay home. For the life of me I can't understand why some are so concerned about the well being of random people in this country as it relates to a virus that's taking the lives of less than 1% of the population? Do these people feel the same about the liv

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If you don’t want to do your part to help, then you are part of the problem.
I not causing a problem, I'm simply living my life the way I want to live it like I've done for 48 yrs. I really DGAS about the "problem" the media has stirred up for the last 2 months and I will not live in fear for myself or my loved ones.

The American people have been educated to the extreme as it relates to this virus that's causing deaths in less than 1% of the population. Everyone has a choice to make and the freedom to make it based on their beliefs.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:00 pm to
Irrelevant.

You’re an imbecile either way. You say the fear-mongering is bullshite, meanwhile 100k people are dead.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:04 pm to
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really don't see what is so important about them to you


Because some of them, maybe even most of them, are examples of covid deaths falling through the cracks. For a person crying about a lack of accurate numbers, you sure seem slanted to one direction.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39415 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:04 pm to
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not causing a problem


You may be causing a problem if you refuse to wear a mask.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31654 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:09 pm to
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How the hell can a test result come back positive when the kit was never removed from the casing and was simply returned completely un-touched?
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Uh, because the tests assume the sample has been collected appropriately?


The final test results should be determined based on the samples collected, right? The bogus test he submitted had no tissue sample collected and it still came back positive. How could it possibly show a positive result when the testing kit was intact and had never been used to take a sample?

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It sounds like the person you know probably shouldn’t be working the nursing home.
He's been in the medical field of geriatrics for over a decade. He tested himself, not a patient. He simply wanted "test" the labs and judge their accuracy. I can't say I blame him when his facility holds over 100 beds.
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Even when this all started it was well known that collecting samples incorrectly caused inaccurate test results.

This person collected the test samples according to the CDC directives and still got a 50/50 result from the lab. Then he sent in a bogus test with a sample kit that had not even been removed from the packaging and the results came back positive.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31654 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:23 pm to
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You may be causing a problem if you refuse to wear a mask.


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36890 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:26 pm to
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Because some of them, maybe even most of them, are examples of covid deaths falling through the cracks. For a person crying about a lack of accurate numbers, you sure seem slanted to one direction.


Well how do you purpose to count them? You're just using this general 5k number to ignore everything else.

It's not may fault NY just said frick it, not going to test them or try to find out why they died.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 5:26 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36890 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:29 pm to
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People like you don’t deserve any amount of respect or decency. Your stupidity only harms society.




Ah yes, the common tactic of dehumanizing people in order to justify your actions. That's always gone well in history.

And not 1 single time in this thread have you actually addressed what I've posted.

Fact: The mortality rates that have been citing only counted confirmed tests and didn't count the 80% of cases that had no symptoms.

Fact: Dying with Covid is not the same thing as dying because of Covid.

Fact: They have been counting anyone who dies with Covid as a Covid death even if Covid wasn't the actual cause of death.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36890 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:31 pm to
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If you don’t want to do your part to help, then you are part of the problem.


False dilemma logical fallacy. Assumes only 2 possible choices/outcomes.

Ranks up there with that stupid Bush quote "If you aren't with us, you are against us".

Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:38 pm to
Dumbass logic

This is like saying dying with cancer is not the same as dying because of cancer. Jesus Christ. If an illness leads to another fatal condition then yes, it’s most certainly the same.

This no life, conspiracy jackass thinks they are out there putting covid19 as the cause of death on death certificates for gunshot victims.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 5:40 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36890 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:40 pm to
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Dumbass logic

This is like saying dying with cancer is not the same as dying because of cancer. Jesus Christ. If an illness leads to another fatal condition then yes, it’s most certainly the same.


So if someone were to get stupid drunk, have a BAC of say 0.55% and they die while having cancer, you would count that as a cancer death?

Or do you say they died from alcohol poisoning?

Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:41 pm to
Nope. If someone’s body gives out from chemo and radiation therapy or some type of illness due to a weakened immune system from cancer or said treatments, then that’s a cancer death.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 5:43 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36890 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:42 pm to
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Nope.


So why did they count it as a covid death?
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:43 pm to
They didn’t.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36890 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:47 pm to
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They didn’t.


Yes they did.

And then because people got pissed about it, Colorado had to undo it and then undo a large amount of their other previously counted deaths also.

All the while they stated "This is how all states are doing it".

Maybe you should try reading a thread before speaking, but it's not really a surprise you aren't informed about the topic you are busy calling everyone else an idiot over.

Colorado health officials claimed drunk man died of coronavirus when his blood-alcohol content was seven times the legal limit

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Montezuma County Coroner George Deavers found that Sebastian Yellow, 35, who tested positive for COVID-19, had died of acute alcohol poisoning

Deavers' investigation determined Yellow's blood alcohol content was .55, which is about seven times the legal limit

The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment, however, categorized Yellow's death as being due to COVID-19 and updated its daily tally


What did the CDPHE say about it? "This is the way all states are doing it"
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 5:48 pm
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:49 pm to
Yeah, because a handful of cases of stupidity really puts a dent in 100k deaths.

I’m sure you’re naive enough to believe this adds up to a significant number.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:52 pm to
And the article only further proves medical professionals aren’t doing the bullshite people said as classifying these deaths as Covid deaths just to get more money kicked back into their hospital. They push back.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36890 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:55 pm to
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Yeah, because a handful of cases of stupidity really puts a dent in 100k deaths.

I’m sure you’re naive enough to believe this adds up to a significant number.




Colorado had to change about 300 of their 1000 deaths. Don't remember the exact numbers, feel free to look it up. I've posted links in this thread if you had bothered to read it before coming in here like someone who needs to get throat punched.

They claim this is how all states do it, but they no longer will in the future after public outcry. So maybe give them a call and tell them otherwise.

Because there is a big difference between dying with Covid and dying because of it. And people only want to know how many died because of it.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:00 pm to
Dying from pneumonia that was brought on by the corona virus is dying because of the corona virus.

And no - that’s not how all states do it. Look it up rather than posting outliers to further your dumbass conspiracy.

It took me looking at 2 of your dumbfrick, uneducated, Conspiracy Chad posts to know not to bother reading the rest of the first 6 pages, as I’d be dumber for doing so.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 6:03 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36890 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:07 pm to
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Dying from pneumonia that was brought on by the corona virus is dying because of the corona virus.


I doubt anyone would have a problem counting that.

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And no - that’s not how all states do it. Look it up rather than posting outliers to further your dumbass conspiracy.



So Colorado and California are lying? I'm guessing you thought that was the only one because you didn't read the thread.

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It took me looking at 2 of your dumbfrick, uneducated, Conspiracy Chad posts to know to not to bother reading the rest of the first 6 pages, as I’d be dumber for doing so.


No, it took 2 posts for you to just assume a bunch of shite about me, then start attacking me based on your own assumptions.

If you had read the thread, the stuff about Colorado wouldn't have been news to you.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 6:08 pm
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