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re: Name your team and its three biggest rivals
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:00 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:00 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Agreed. I was just saying Florida doesn't seem to harbor much anger over that unlike certain fans I know even though you could argue Florida would have more of a right to.
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:00 am to genro
(1) Holy shite that's a stacked South division
(2) Doesn't preserve UGA-AU and UGA-UF
(2) Doesn't preserve UGA-AU and UGA-UF
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:01 am to CrimsonFever
LSUsessed 
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:04 am to genro
There's a large Saban fanbase that never gave, nor will give, CLM a chance. Eff 'em. No cure, waste of time.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:06 am to lsutothetop
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(2) Doesn't preserve ... UGA-UF
That wasn't in play to get the necessary votes for A&M invite. The no's were AU/UA/UGA/UT and it was specifically 3 games..UA/AU, UA/UT and AU/UGA.
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:07 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Actually just the last two games...the IB was assumed since in same division.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:09 am to genro
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Makes more sense geographically than what we have now, and rivalries can still be preserved.
Is Florida going to play Georgia and Tennessee as Cross-Divisionals every year?
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:11 am to lsutothetop
quote:Huh? Teams vary every year. In 2011 the previous East (which in this scenario would become the North) would've become a better division than it was, because Arkansas was better than Florida last year.
(1) Holy shite that's a stacked South division
quote:You're right, and I have the perfect tweak. Swap Ole Miss and Georgia. Ole Miss gets to keep its rivalry with Vandy, and make the Egg Bowl permanent division rivals. And it still makes sense geographically.
(2) Doesn't preserve UGA-AU and UGA-UF
SEC North: Ole Miss, Vandy, UT, UK, Arky, Mizzou, SCar
SEC South: Bama, Auburn, LSU, A&M, Miss State, UGA, UF
Permanent interdivision rivals:
Ole Miss-MSU
UT-Bama
Arky-LSU
Mizzou-A&M
Vandy-Auburn
SCar-UGa
UK-UF
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:16 am to genro
Wouldn't just switching AU/UA with Mizzou/UK solve historic rival issues plus allow a 6-2 or 6-3 format so everyone can play everyone else in a reasonable amount of time. Seems like AU/UA/UGA/UT would go for that.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:18 am to genro
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SEC North: Ole Miss, Vandy, UT, UK, Arky, Mizzou, SCar SEC South: Bama, Auburn, LSU, A&M, Miss State, UGA, UF
That's worse than your first idea. That's 5 of the big six in one division.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:19 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
I thought we were yalls rivals?
Yall don't wanna play us every year?
Yall don't wanna play us every year?
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:19 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
You guys must be bored.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:21 am to genro
I'm a traditionalist. A&M is on board.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:22 am to Weagle25
I'm overthinking myself now. I'm trying to say that power shifts every year and we never know who will e good but frick it that's just too unbalanced.
Though dbt's idea puts Bama, Auburn, SCar, UF, UGA, and UT all in one division and LSU over there in the weak division. Sneaky bastard.
Though dbt's idea puts Bama, Auburn, SCar, UF, UGA, and UT all in one division and LSU over there in the weak division. Sneaky bastard.
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:24 am to genro
That's why he wants it. they don't have any rivalries to keep intact anyways.
they don't have any rivalries to keep intact anyways.Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:28 am to Weagle25
Since this was a originally a rivalry thread let's make a list of the rivalries that absolutely must be preserved every year:
Alabama-Auburn
Auburn-Georgia
Alabama-Tennessee
Ole Miss-Miss State
Florida-Georgia
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Those 5 I'm sure about. Those are sacred and cannot be sacrificed.
What about UT-Vandy? LSU-Arky? UGa-SCar? UF-UT?
What others are sacred? What can be sacrificed?
Alabama-Auburn
Auburn-Georgia
Alabama-Tennessee
Ole Miss-Miss State
Florida-Georgia
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Those 5 I'm sure about. Those are sacred and cannot be sacrificed.
What about UT-Vandy? LSU-Arky? UGa-SCar? UF-UT?
What others are sacred? What can be sacrificed?
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:35 am to genro
Conference only? Those 5 are the only ones I can think of.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:55 am to lsutothetop
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, and I can see Texas A&M becoming a friendly rival because of the whole Bryant, Stallings, Franchione connection. Both fan bases love Bryant/Stallings and wish Franchione would get his man teets caught in a bear trap..
Posted on 12/4/12 at 5:02 am to genro
Brah LSU fans WANT to sacrifice LSU-Arky for LSU-A&M
I agree with those five and can't really think of any others that stack up. I'll further limit the discussion by saying that no team should have more than two sacred cow rivalries. Sorry, but there's no way any team can have sacred hatred for more than two teams. You're lying to yourself if you think otherwise.
So that eliminates Alabama, Auburn, and Georgia from contention for further untouchables. Add Florida-Tennessee to the list, it's good, has enough history at this point, and locks both teams in at two. That tackles all of your traditional "big six" since poor LSU no can has rivals :( although I suspect that after a few years we may be talking about A&M/LSU in the same vein, so we'll add them as well.
I was actually going to try to figure out how to juggle conference expansion with traditional rivals earlier, hence why I was asking about them.
Seems like as a consequence of these rivalries, you'd want Alabama and Auburn in one division and Florida, Georgia and Tennessee in the other. LSU and Texas A&M, and Ole Miss and Mississippi State, are both pairs that should be in the same division. Further, Arkansas ties the two groups pretty well together; OM-LSU-Arky and LSU-Arky-A&M make for a couple of nice triangles. So there's five together, MSU-OM-LSU-Arky-A&M, who would have to go with Bama and AU to make a 7-team division. UF, UGA and UT are in the other division, South Carolina brings some much-needed star power to balance the two divisions out, and then the trio that's left (Vandy, UK and Mizzou) fill out the East.
It looks weird as hell to have Mizzou in the East, but it makes sense. Frankly, as far as conference ties go, they were a filler anyway. They fit better in the Big Ten or Big XII; notice that multiple Missouri fans checked in here and not a single one of them named a single SEC team as a relevant rival.
The only other thing that would be feasible would require you guys to drop Alabama-Tennessee. Do that, and we can put Mizzou in the West and kick Auburn to the East and make Alabama and Auburn cross-divisional rivals. That's huge for Auburn since it lets them rekindle their Florida rivalry while retaining both major rivals, but obviously it requires Alabama to give up Tennessee.
On the whole, though, the current balance of power in the conference and current assortment of "vital" rivalries is such that the current divisional system, though somewhat odd, is best.
ETA: But hey, we're kicking the pants off of the Tiger Rant right now.
I agree with those five and can't really think of any others that stack up. I'll further limit the discussion by saying that no team should have more than two sacred cow rivalries. Sorry, but there's no way any team can have sacred hatred for more than two teams. You're lying to yourself if you think otherwise.
So that eliminates Alabama, Auburn, and Georgia from contention for further untouchables. Add Florida-Tennessee to the list, it's good, has enough history at this point, and locks both teams in at two. That tackles all of your traditional "big six" since poor LSU no can has rivals :( although I suspect that after a few years we may be talking about A&M/LSU in the same vein, so we'll add them as well.
I was actually going to try to figure out how to juggle conference expansion with traditional rivals earlier, hence why I was asking about them.
Seems like as a consequence of these rivalries, you'd want Alabama and Auburn in one division and Florida, Georgia and Tennessee in the other. LSU and Texas A&M, and Ole Miss and Mississippi State, are both pairs that should be in the same division. Further, Arkansas ties the two groups pretty well together; OM-LSU-Arky and LSU-Arky-A&M make for a couple of nice triangles. So there's five together, MSU-OM-LSU-Arky-A&M, who would have to go with Bama and AU to make a 7-team division. UF, UGA and UT are in the other division, South Carolina brings some much-needed star power to balance the two divisions out, and then the trio that's left (Vandy, UK and Mizzou) fill out the East.
It looks weird as hell to have Mizzou in the East, but it makes sense. Frankly, as far as conference ties go, they were a filler anyway. They fit better in the Big Ten or Big XII; notice that multiple Missouri fans checked in here and not a single one of them named a single SEC team as a relevant rival.
The only other thing that would be feasible would require you guys to drop Alabama-Tennessee. Do that, and we can put Mizzou in the West and kick Auburn to the East and make Alabama and Auburn cross-divisional rivals. That's huge for Auburn since it lets them rekindle their Florida rivalry while retaining both major rivals, but obviously it requires Alabama to give up Tennessee.
On the whole, though, the current balance of power in the conference and current assortment of "vital" rivalries is such that the current divisional system, though somewhat odd, is best.
ETA: But hey, we're kicking the pants off of the Tiger Rant right now.
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 5:03 am
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