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re: Most attractive SEC Jobs

Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:32 am to
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:32 am to
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I'm saying Arkansas is a superior program compared to aTm. I provided data to back up my claim instead of providing conspiracy theories and moral victories like you...

Read my earlier posts. I specifically said...you know what, I will post my prior quote right here:

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re: Most attractive SEC Jobs (Posted on 9/18/12 at 5:12 p.m. to dallasCONSTag)

1-Bama - They fricking own the MNC. No reasonable person would question that program as the ballz-deep best. It may, however, work as a disadvantage because of expectations. Nonetheless, coaches would donate vital parts of their anatomy to get a shot at Bama.
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2-LSU - Big dog in state. Lots of fan support. Great stadium and atmosphere.
2-Florida - Same as LSU...tied. Not much difference.
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4-Tennessee
4-Auburn
4-Georgia
4-Arky - (don't kid yourselves, Aggies. Arky is a better job right now. We have a lot of work to do to catch up).
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medium gap
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8-A&M - We certainly have all the pieces in place. Just need some winning to get the program in the top tier.

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9-S Car - It's really a difference of resources for A&M v. USCe. Neither have a stellar winning history.
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big gap
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10-Ole Miss - Not much history but decent money (especially Mizzou) and fan support (Ole Miss)
10-Miss St
10-Mizzou
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Abyss
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13-Vandy - Two basketball Schools with no history, money, or fan support compared to the rest of the SEC
13-Kentucky - would fit in well in the ACC or Big East (not that they suck like those other schools. It's a basketball reference).
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 11:33 am
Posted by Pigimus Prime
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2012
4095 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:32 am to
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Why did y'all lose to ULM? Tyler Wilson? I am trying to follow the argument here?

Does coaching matter? Recruiting? What is it you are trying to prove?

I already said that Arky is the better coaching job right now. I also argued that A&M has a much brighter future given the potential and circumstances. What more do you want me to say? Do you disagree?


Yes, no Tyler and no coach. The difference is I won't blame every loss in history on the circumstances unique to the time period of that game.

They both matter, but there is more than that too.

I do disagree, based on history. My whole life I've heard of Aggie potential but it's never been realized. Nothing has changed my mind on that.
Posted by PanhandleDawg
Navarre Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2011
5588 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:34 am to
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Florida being the best job in the SEC is the biggest myth in CFB


Actually you are wrong, Florida is probably the best HC job in the country.



Posted by trickydick12
college station
Member since Sep 2012
1679 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:35 am to
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You, sir, are mad.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:35 am to
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They both matter, but there is more than that too.

I do disagree, based on history. My whole life I've heard of Aggie potential but it's never been realized. Nothing has changed my mind on that.


What more is there than coaching and recruiting?

Back to my paranoia. Why do you think that A&M has not been able to realize potential (for your whole life)?
Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:37 am to
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Why do you think that A&M has not been able to realize potential (for your whole life)?


Because of people like you who attend the university
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43499 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:40 am to
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Back to my paranoia. Why do you think that A&M has not been able to realize potential (for your whole life)?



Same reason Ole Miss is no longer dominating the CFB landscape. Same reason for fans pointing to a unique time frame and deciding that is the potential of the program, a potential that is not "realized" when results on the field fall short.

Delusion.
Posted by JDM1992
In your head
Member since Dec 2011
15141 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:40 am to
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 7:56 pm
Posted by 20symbolsisnotenoug
Texas
Member since May 2012
358 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:44 am to
Just look at that avatar

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What more is there than coaching and recruiting?

Back to my paranoia. Why do you think that A&M has not been able to realize potential (for your whole life)?


Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:51 am to
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Same reason Ole Miss is no longer dominating the CFB landscape. Same reason for fans pointing to a unique time frame and deciding that is the potential of the program, a potential that is not "realized" when results on the field fall short.

Delusion.


Just so I'm clear, the reason for A&M's failure to realize success: DELUSION

Is that right?

EDIT:

DELUSION and People like Me attend(ed) the university

Is that right?
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 11:52 am
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43499 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:52 am to
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Just so I'm clear, the reason for A&M's failure to realize success: DELUSION

Is that right?


No, you are delusional to think aTm is not realizing the potential for the program.

Posted by JDM1992
In your head
Member since Dec 2011
15141 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:53 am to
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6745 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:53 am to
A lot of fricks are flying in this thread.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27156 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:57 am to
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dallasCONSTag


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9-S Car - It's really a difference of resources for A&M v. USCe. Neither have a stellar winning history.


As an institution perhaps but in football there really isn't that big of a difference.

Football expenses (2010):

SC: $22,482,479
A&M: $15,560,216

Football revenue (2010):

SC: $45,464,058
A&M: $45,414,074

A&M

SC

As you can see SC actually has a higher revenue throughout the entire athletic department than A&M does. What A&M does have over SC is the total revenue - expenses is notably higher.
Posted by OldSulRoss
Member since Aug 2011
317 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:59 am to
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Then why has aTm sucked for the duration of most SECRant members lives?


Unless most of them like 14, they should remember that A&M was like the 9th winningest program in college football during the 1990s. Or maybe the internet has given everyone on the planet a goldfish brain.

Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10715 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:00 pm to
I think a lot of you guys are gonna be surprised how AtM does in the SEC. How you can rank Ark over them I don't know. AtM has more money and more in state talent.

Georgia should be #1 on this list they just have Richt as their head coach now. If they had someone like Saban or Miles they would have already won several MNCs because of the load of talent that's in Georgia.

Of course Bama and LSU are gonna be high in the list but the expectations of winning are higher here than anywhere.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43499 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:01 pm to
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Unless most of them like 14, they should remember that A&M was like the 9th winningest program in college football during the 1990s. Or maybe the internet has given everyone on the planet a goldfish brain.


No, everyone remembers just how down OU and Texas was during this time period.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:02 pm to
Agree. SC and A&M are pretty much dead even in terms of money.

A&M's biggest resource advantage over SC is 300,000 living former students and 51,000 current. I don't know if that makes a difference in the future, but it has (here's that dirty word again) potential.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43499 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:06 pm to
2010 Arkansas

Revenue: $48,524,244.00

Expenses: $22,005,104.00
Posted by OldSulRoss
Member since Aug 2011
317 posts
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:10 pm to
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No, everyone remembers just how down OU and Texas was during this time period.


Then you would be of the opinion that college football is cyclical.

Except when it comes to A&M, where the last 10 years, and not the 10 before that, is indicative of their performance going forward into perpetuity.

Checking the logic...

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