re: Mizzou DE Michael Sam comes out

Is this thread making anybody else horny?

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I was in high school when Ellen came out. People predicted it would ruin her career, etc. And for a little while, it did. Now, that kind of controversy seems stupid. I think its a generational thing. It feels like jr. high to me when people are seriously making fun of or hating someone because they are gay.

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Her show was cancelled after she came out and for a time it did ruin her career in that it halted it. However, her coming out and her and her mom's interviews, but especially her mom's, led to a lot more social change than people realize. Suddenly, parents were hearing from this nice older southern lady about her gay daughter and you know what? They could relate. Families started thinking about their own gay children, grandkids, cousins, relatives, and friends. Ellen was also so infinitely likeable and comes across as so asexual to begin with that people realized how non-threatening and painfully normal gay people really were.

In some ways, the fallout that happened after she came out led to the very dialogue that enabled her to come back several years later but her non-threatening personality also helped.

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I think there's a certain age and above that all they know of gays is the really strange, outlandish gays and AIDs. I think for the younger generations, we've been exposed to gays longer and its just not a huge deal. I'm not above making a ghey joke now and then, but I won't ever legitemately hate on someone who is just trying to be themselves. People are either good people, or they aren't. Pay your taxes, do your best, be a decent fricking human being, and whatever else you do is your business.

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Again to go back to your Ellen example that was a pivotal point. One of the reasons our generation and younger people in general don't have as much anti-gay baggage is because her decision to come out publicly really opened the dialogue and after her coming out and the initial backlash things started to calm down and people came to accept her. Other gay people saw that and they started to come out to more people in their own lives and eventually so did other public figures. Older people knew as many gay people, they just didn't know they were gay and so gays were always 'those people' and defined as this immoral highly stereotyped other.

It's easy to buy into lies about a minority group when all you've ever been told is 'those people are this way or that way' and you don't have a friend or relative or classmate that gives you a concrete example of how much bullshite those stereotypes are. The same thing was true for older generations who were fed the same kind of hate, bigotry, stereotypes and/or lies about people of another color and with segregation keeping people apart they had limited interactions to help them see that black, white, mixed, latin@, other were all the same -- mostly good people with a few bad people that just happened to share a skin tone. But for those of us who grew up going to school with one another, hanging out and forming friendships with one another, and dating one another the old lies, stereotypes, bigotry, and hate became not only farcical but completely unacceptable.

Having bonds with people who are different from you whether it's color, religion, sexuality, or whatever has a way of changing perceptions.

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And you're like 25? 28 years old? So sounds like you haven't spent a considerable amount of time anywhere.

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32. How old are you? Exactly.

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Feminism will be the death of western culture, not homosexuality.

Homosexuality didn't prevent the Spartans, Romans, Macedonians, and a slew of ancient empires from being total badasses.

Feminism on the other hand...

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LOL. Put that crack pipe down.

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This board portrays why a lot of citizens want to leave though.

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Because this board totally portrays the entire south.

You're no better than gay bashers

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It's easy to buy into lies about a minority group

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Any group. It doesn't have to be minority. People generally gravitate towards people just like themselves and are ignorant about everyone else, no matter how "open minded" they claim to be. Sadly, this follows political lines too often

I'm not reading through all of this bullshite and I'm sure it is 90% bullshite.

Good for him. Who cares, really? There have been, will be or is now a gay player on every team. So what. People need to get over this shite and let people live how they want.

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Is this thread making anybody else horny?

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3/4 chubby

This thread can blow me.