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re: Miami '01 vs Alabama '09

Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:03 pm to
We beat 5 top 20 teams.. vs Au beating 4.

We beat 3, top 10 teams.. vs Au beating 2.

We beat 2 top 5 teams.. vs Au beating none.

Those 2 top 5 teams, were a combined 25-0 when we beat them.

We beat 10 bowl eligible teams.. vs Au 7 bowl eligible teams. 6 of the 10 we played, won their bowl games.

Our SOS was stronger than Au's, we won more games and against higher ranked teams. You fail, again.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:03 pm to
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04 AU vs. 09 Bama would be epic.

AU in a close one, though.


No, AU would have won by double digits.

And about the LSU game, LSU was the defending national champs that had not allowed a TD in about 15 quarters when they played AU. And it was an extra point that would have meant the game stayed tied that LSU was penalized on. LSU was the only team all year that even gave AU a game. Not only did we never trail all year in the 4th, we were beating every team by double digits until Tubs went into a shell and ran up the middle every play. That AU team could have named the score against about anyone they played all year. Hell we would blow everyone out until the 3rd, then just sit on it. Even in the SECCG, we went up about 20 on UT then sat on it. Against VT, 16-0 starting the 4th and probably could have won by more if not for the Tubbershell.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 8:04 pm
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:05 pm to
2004 Au averaged 32 ppg and gave up 11 ppg against weaker teams.

2009 Bama averaged 32 ppg and gave up 11 ppg against stronger teams.

Saying 04 Au would mop the floor with Bama is a stupid statement.
Posted by Rx
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Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:06 pm to
'09 Bama beats '04 Auburn in a close one. I think Bama's D stops Aubs run and Jason Campbell loses his composure and costs AU the game.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:06 pm to
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I don't get it.... 04 Auburn beat a lousy 04 Bama 21-13 (Barn trailing 6-0 at halftime),


Yeah, trailing 6-0 at Bama, AU started the 2nd half with 3 scoring drives in a row to go up 21-6 which they sat on the rest of the game. Then a hail mary by a backup qb scored Bama's only td of the game in the final seconds.

Unlike Bama this year against AU in AU.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:06 pm to
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No, AU would have won by double digits
Prove it.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:07 pm to
AU would have beat the shite out of this year's Bama team. It would not have even been close.

Now you guys waste some more time looking up whatever stats make you feel better. I'm done here.
Posted by Crimsoncutie98
Member since Oct 2008
15409 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:08 pm to
So now the quality of a team is decided by when they score rather than the final score?
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:08 pm to
No need to look up. You're making a homer statement that has no basis in facts. It really degrades your arguments when you do that.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:09 pm to
You don't get it, do you Hunter? All of those criteria are only applicable to the year in which the team played, and cannot validly be compared across years.

It isn't that difficult of a concept but you seem to have a hard time grasping it. This doesn't surprise me, however.

Comparing teams across years is a qualitative inquiry, based on individual perceptions.

Auburn put a shitload of talent into the NFL from that team. Could Alabama match that in the future? Possibly. Maybe.

But, to me, at the critical positions, I see an advantage in Auburn's personnel at nearly every one. Quarterback. Running back (OK that one is close). Defensive line. Secondary.

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You fail, again.


Your entire existence is a failure, hunter.

Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:12 pm to
TxTiger... You are the one that doesn't get it. While they may or may not have had more talent... they did not produce. You cannot use their abilities post college to make the argument in their college play. Continue with your failed attempts to justify a losing proposition though. It only adds to the insult and injury that you have self inflicted upon yourself this past season, with your lack of knowledge.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
19132 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:14 pm to
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Yeah, trailing 6-0 at Bama, AU started the 2nd half with 3 scoring drives in a row to go up 21-6 which they sat on the rest of the game. Then a hail mary by a backup qb scored Bama's only td of the game in the final seconds.



Umm ok. 2009, Auburn went up 14-0 in the 1st quarter, Bama outscored the Barn 26-7 the 2nd quarter on, what's your point? We can play this game all day...
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:14 pm to
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they did not produce.


They went undefeated, Hunter. You can't "produce" any more than that.

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You cannot use their abilities post college to make the argument in their college play.


Valid point, but I think their players were better in college than Alabama's players. Its my personal opinion.

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with your lack of knowledge.



I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 8:15 pm
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:15 pm to
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cannot validly be compared across years.

Then what is it that you are using to come up with the opinion that AU would beat UA? I mean it's only fair we argue using the same information, so if we can't use stats, what can we use? Should we just take your word for it?

FWIW, I have a hard time believing that college football is that much worse in 2009 than it was in 2004. And if, as you say, 09 is a down year, what are you using to come to that conclusion. I mean give us the facts you are using to come to these glorious conclusions.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:15 pm to
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Then what is it that you are using to come up with the opinion that AU would beat UA?


I explained it in the same post. Read more carefully.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
19132 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:16 pm to
Btw, 04' Alabama was missing starting QB, starting RB, starting FB, and an O-Lineman.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 8:17 pm
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:16 pm to
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They went undefeated, Hunter. You can't "produce" any more than that


So did Bama.. against higher ranked teams.

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Valid point, but I think their players were better in college than Alabama's players. Its my personal opinion.


Yet they didn't produce more than Bama did in their respective years.

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I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.


Son... you never knew what you thought you did.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:18 pm to
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So did Bama.. against higher ranked teams.



First of all...I know Bama went undefeated. Second of all....you really are pretty dense.

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Son


Ain't no son, boy.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:18 pm to
should i have added.. of a bitch?
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26492 posts
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:22 pm to
I thought Auburn had decided that we, Alabama fans, could not talk about the past anymore?
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 8:23 pm
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