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re: Mett, McCarron, Murray, JFF draft order
Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:54 am to Libertyabides71
Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:54 am to Libertyabides71
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The reason he has thrown for less yards as well is it not?
No. He has more attempts than Mett.
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:55 am to Rickdaddy4188
Not sure of your point...... I said it was a better defensive era. Also if 3 losses is down, then 4 of your last 6 years were down years
Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:57 am to Rickdaddy4188
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No it's not. Strong arm helps in the weather and throwing across your body or throwing without planting your back foot. That is what makes strong arm qbs so valuable. They don't have to plant their back foot to make all the throws.
AJ can make all the throws though. He just needs work on his deep ball.
A super strong arm is overrated though compared to other QB stats. AJ has never had problems with the deep ball before this year. Some of it appears to be a timing issue with Kenny Bell being a step slowing after his injury last year. And some of it appears to be the shoulder problem he had earlier in the year.
Its the 2nd or 3rd time AJ has had an injured throwing shoulder (high school, 2011, 2013) so it could be something that plagues him going forward.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:57 am to Rickdaddy4188
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No. He has more attempts than Mett.
This. AJ is on pace for over 3k yards, but his YPA is down from last year because Coop has been hurt and his line has been straight horrible in 3 games.
I've said before, he needs to get into a good situation at the next level. A team like Jacksonville can't draft him and expect him to come in and turn them around. Minnesota, Cleveland, Arizona is they wanna move on from Palmer, those are some good landing spots if he is gonna start right away. If he is gonna sit, Denver or New England would be perfect.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:58 am to Rickdaddy4188
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No. He has more attempts than Mett.
It may be that LSU throws more downfield strikes than Alabama - but I'm sure as hell not going to look up that statistic.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:58 am to plainstiger1994
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Not sure of your point...... I said it was a better defensive era. Also if 3 losses is down, then 4 of your last 6 years were down years
3 losses is not a success at lsu , auburn , bama , UF. Not wining your division is a failed season. There has never been as much defensive talent in the sec than right now.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 12:59 am to Rickdaddy4188
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No. He has more attempts than Mett.
And less Interceptions. Mettenberger forces balls deep. Mett does have a stronger arm but the guy makes bad decisions. He is a better raw prospect but he is lacking in the mental, leadership, and winning aspects of the job. Not to mention his off field troubles. Mettenberger also tends to play worse in the big games.
He does throw deep more. LSU has also kept him in a lot later in their four blowouts. (TCU, Kent State, UAB, and MSU)
AJ is the best fit in a team still running the West Coast (Green Bay to sit and learn behind Rodgers a few years).
AJ is not going to be the guy you pick early in the first round and turns a team around by himself then again those guys rarely pan out.
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 1:04 am
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:00 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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If he is gonna sit, Denver or New England would be perfect.
I'd be ecstatic if McCarron was to be drafted by the Broncos. Peyton could really polish him up rather well.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:02 am to Libertyabides71
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AJ is the best fit in a team still running the West Coast (Green Bay to sit and learn behind Rodgers a few years).
Nah, unless he leaves, Rodgers will be in GB for a long time. Manning and Brady could easily be gone within, say, 3 years. Sitting longer than that is a waste.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:05 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
New England would actually be a great fit because we run the pared down version of that offense. Green Bay was just the first team that popped in my head that still runs a true West Coast. I know Smith is doing well in Kansas City but the Andy Reid offense is also a great fit for AJ.
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 1:06 am
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:05 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Difference in a failed season and a "down year."
It's not like LSU's defense just stepped aside and let Jason Campbell have his way.
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3 losses is not a success at lsu , auburn , bama , UF. Not wining your division is a failed season
Difference in a failed season and a "down year."
It's not like LSU's defense just stepped aside and let Jason Campbell have his way.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:08 am to plainstiger1994
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Difference in a failed season and a "down year."
It's not like LSU's defense just stepped aside and let Jason Campbell have his way.
Campbell also played in 4 wildly different offensive systems during his time at AU. The last year (his best) was an extremely simplified version of the West Coast by Borges. Campbell had it missing between the ears. Where as AJ McCarron has been running a college version of the Parcells/Belichick offense for 5 years now.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:09 am to Libertyabides71
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New England would actually be a great fit because we run the pared down version of that offense. Green Bay was just the first team that popped in my head that still runs a true West Coast. I know Smith is doing well in Kansas City but the Andy Reid offense is also a great fit for AJ.
And Smith is a really poor QB that AJ would be a huge upgrade over. If he is there in the later rounds when they pick, they really should nab him. Would be all they needed to still be undefeated this year.
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 1:10 am
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:10 am to Nicolae
Barring an injury/meltdown I doubt AJ goes in the "later" rounds.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:23 am to Libertyabides71
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And less Interceptions. Mettenberger forces balls deep. Mett does have a stronger arm but the guy makes bad decisions.
Again. AJ has less ints because he never has to take chances. Also you say Mett makes bad decisions but has a higher qb rating than AJ. So you're wrong.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:24 am to Rickdaddy4188
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You clearly don't know what to look for in a pro qb. JM does Not have a good arm( average), his throwing motion is horrible( throws the football like a baseball sometimes), and his footwork is average at best. He is also small as hell.
Wow, RickDaddy making a dumb post? Who would have guessed?
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:25 am to Rickdaddy4188
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And less Interceptions. Mettenberger forces balls deep. Mett does have a stronger arm but the guy makes bad decisions.
Again. AJ has less ints because he never has to take chances. Also you say Mett makes bad decisions but has a higher qb rating than AJ. So you're wrong.
QB rating is influenced by raw production as well. Mettenberger is only your QB because of the bad decisions he made.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:26 am to Libertyabides71
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winning aspects of the job
Team accomplishment that has nothing to do with qbs going to the next level. Mett has a better qb rating than AJ. Qb rating is how a rate qbs over a period of time. Mett has the 5th highest qb rating in all of cfb. This year Mett is playing qb better than AJ.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:27 am to Libertyabides71
Oh, I see now. At first I thought he was just a moron, but now I see he's trying to delude himself into thinking Mettenberger will be a legit NFL starter at any point in his career.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 1:30 am to thefloydian
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Oh, I see now. At first I thought he was just a moron, but now I see he's trying to delude himself into thinking Mettenberger will be a legit NFL starter at any point in his career.
You think AJ is a better pro prospect than Mett? Where do you GUMPS get these guys. Mett has played qb better than AJ this season. AJ is the king of dump passes. It's the reason Mett has 600 more yards on less attempt.
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