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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:05 am to
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:05 am to
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details.
rule overturned- 2007.
my example - 2009.


NCAA stated its reasoning for not clearing Masoli- was kicked off his team
Kid from LaTech- was kicked off his team.



precedent set-2009




Those are not "details".

Masoli was never kicked off of Oregon's team or dismissed from the school. He was suspended from playing in games for a year.

Now if this kid from LaTech was dismissed from the team he is in a different situation and had no choice but to transfer to remain on scholarship.

Oregon apparently had a post-grad degree he was interested in as he applied before being suspended. He could have served his suspension while working towards his degree at Oregon.

These two examples are completely different unless you can provide the needed "details" that bring the two situations closer to be relevant with one another.
Posted by RebelNutt48
Valdosta, GA
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:07 am to
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hey pal, where do people watch da games in the kingdom of Mandeville? I'll be visiting the parents Vandy weekend.



There was a bar in Mandeville that my friend took me to to watch game 7 of the NBA. Wish I could remember the name of it. It was right across the street from the lake. It was a cool place.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:07 am to
LOL, at their houses. Ummm WOW is a good place to watch. The new Brewhouse on the lakefront has a huge TV and will be showing it i'd imagine.

There is a shortage of "sports bars". There is an LSU named place on hwy 22 but I can't remember the name of it.

Sorry I wasn't more help. Good luck
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:08 am to
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Masoli was never kicked off of Oregon's team or dismissed from the school. He was suspended from playing in games for a year.



where the hell are you coming up with this? He was kicked off after being suspended. He was NEVER going to play for Oregon.......ever again.



Once again. All you are doing is comprehending things that fit your argument. You're completely ignoring everything that contradicts your argument.



ETA: also, where in the hell are you seeing that he had a grad program at Oregon that he was planning on enrolling?
This post was edited on 9/2/10 at 11:10 am
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:09 am to
It's a blind hate. This thread is just :beatdeadhorse:
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:11 am to
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It's a blind hate.


I know. This is just like when you know someone is a dumbass but you still listen just to see what they say.

I figure that's the only reason Bill O'Reilly still has a show.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:12 am to
You are using black & white comparisons like it's a court of law.



Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:13 am to
Did I miss something?
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:15 am to
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You are using black & white comparisons like it's a court of law.




I don't see how it's a black and white comparison.

Both athletes were dismissed from their team. One was cleared to play the very next year and one wasn't.

And the NCAA's only given reason was Masoli wasn't leaving Oregon in a good standing with the team.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:17 am to
Something to this effect may have already been said, but I don't feel like reading through 30 pages. The thing is this isn't the supreme court.

Precedence doesn't dictate NCAA rulings.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:20 am to
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Precedence doesn't dictate NCAA rulings.



And that is the problem. That's why it took the NCAA years to hammer USC.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43600 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:21 am to
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Both athletes were dismissed from their team. One was cleared to play the very next year and one wasn't.


Why were each dismissed?

Obviously, this was a big deal to the NCAA and their decision making...
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:22 am to
It's a big deal because one is going from BCS conference to BCS conference. The other is going from nowhere to nowhere...
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
72631 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:22 am to
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Obviously, this was a big deal to the NCAA and their decision making...





obviously not, as they only mentioned Masoli's standing with his previous team as being the problem.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43600 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:23 am to
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It's a big deal because one is going from BCS conference to BCS conference. The other is going from nowhere to nowhere...


Or maybe it was because one was in football and the other basketball.

We can speculate all day.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43600 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:25 am to
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obviously not, as they only mentioned Masoli's standing with his previous team as being the problem.


So what did the other player do to be dismissed?

Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:26 am to
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Or maybe it was because one was in football and the other basketball.

We can speculate all day.

Maybe, all that matters is that it happened. Over
/ this stupid shite
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:27 am to
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And that is the problem. That's why it took the NCAA years to hammer USC.


I agree it is a problem, and you can almost gaurantee he wasn't cleared strictly because it's a high profile case.

That said I think the NCAA got it right here, and wrong in the La Tech/UAB case. Masoli is using a loophole to circumvent punishment.

The law was made so that a person could continue their education at a graduate level and remain on scholarship, not so they can avoid suspension/punishment related to past transgressions.
This post was edited on 9/2/10 at 11:28 am
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:30 am to
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Masoli is using a loophole to circumvent punishment.

Not Masoli. No way.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
72631 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 11:32 am to
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I agree it is a problem, and you can almost gaurantee he wasn't cleared strictly because it's a high profile case.

That said I think the NCAA got it right here, and wrong in the La Tech/UAB case. Masoli is using a loophole to circumvent punishment.



extremely valid argument and I can respect that.

But one glaring hole in that argument is that Tig Barksdale was dismissed from Ole Miss(again) this summer and is now suiting up for jax'ville State this weekend.

I'm assuming that the NCAA has the same rules for FCS programs that they have for FBS programs.
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