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re: Mark Richt: Off-field issues magnified because we discipline and others don't
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:16 am to CockInYourEar
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:16 am to CockInYourEar
Me thinks he does protest too much
We couldn't care less about how/why you discipline your players. Win something ffs.
We couldn't care less about how/why you discipline your players. Win something ffs.
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:17 am to DawgsLife
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Legitimate point. What is your honest opinion of why Georgia seems to have more problems? We all recruit the same players. (Basically) Georgia has a reputation of disciplining severely, so it sin't policy....so, why do you think?
Great question, and I think most people will likely answer this differently. Is it likely that cops in BR or Tuscaloosa (just examples) at times might let a petty thing like underage drinking slide while an Athens cop would arrest for? Sure, it's likely, but no one knows that for sure. Any fan on this site will drawn his or her own conclusion as to what the issue is.
Mine is pretty simple: as an athlete at a major university, a kid has to make better choices. Yes, they are 18-21 year old kids and want to have the college experience that everyone else at their school is experiencing, but there has to be some separation. These kids have to know that most of their choices will be blasted in local/national news and they'll be disciplined harder than a normal college student. It's not a "coach has lost control" issue. Coaches can't be babysitters.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:19 am to DawgsLife
Knowing how to handle each team member is an extremely difficult if not impossible task. I think a player's intrinsic desire to do what is right is more effective than extrinsic discipline imposed after poor behavior. The big question is how to develop the intrinsic desire to use self-discipline.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:22 am to kennymorgan
The purpose of punishment is two fold. One is to rehabilitate the person that commits the offense. Two is to keep anybody else from committing the offense. If people keep screwing up, there must not be a big enough fear of what is going to happen to them.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:22 am to lsusteve1
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Me thinks he does protest too much
We couldn't care less about how/why you discipline your players. Win something ffs.
You didn't read the link, did you? Richt didn't say that. CIYE made a few additions to what he said.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:22 am to HappyTigerDay
Sorry---hit the wrong key
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 10:24 am
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:26 am to HappyTigerDay
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Mine is pretty simple: as an athlete at a major university, a kid has to make better choices.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. If you do something wrong you should get popped for it. Or, you should at least not cry if you get popped for it. I am for personal responsibility.
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but there has to be some separation.
True. Whether they like it or not, they are held to a higher standard in many ways.
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It's not a "coach has lost control" issue. Coaches can't be babysitters.
We think alike on these issues!
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:28 am to HappyTigerDay
I'll try again.
I agree with your points. Difficult situation for all football programs. Coaches seem to be in a no win situation on the issue of discipline.
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Mine is pretty simple: as an athlete at a major university, a kid has to make better choices. Yes, they are 18-21 year old kids and want to have the college experience that everyone else at their school is experiencing, but there has to be some separation. These kids have to know that most of their choices will be blasted in local/national news and they'll be disciplined harder than a normal college student. It's not a "coach has lost control" issue. Coaches can't be babysitters
I agree with your points. Difficult situation for all football programs. Coaches seem to be in a no win situation on the issue of discipline.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:30 am to DawgsLife
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You didn't read the link, did you? Richt didn't say that. CIYE made a few additions to what he said.
CIYE should be careful, you can be sued for libel (or is it slander) for quoting someone when they didn't actually say what you're quoting them saying.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:30 am to ArabianKnight
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The purpose of punishment is two fold. One is to rehabilitate the person that commits the offense. Two is to keep anybody else from committing the offense. If people keep screwing up, there must not be a big enough fear of what is going to happen to them.
And yet, I would be willing to bet more kids have been kicked off Georgia's team than any team in the country. Hard to get tougher than that.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:31 am to FlatwoodsForester
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CIYE should be careful, you can be sued for libel (or is it slander) for quoting someone when they didn't actually say what you're quoting them saying.
Not a good habit to be in....but he was just trying to get a rise...and it worked.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:32 am to FlatwoodsForester
Athens cops aren't as bad as people say. I had multiple encounters with cops underage and got away with it. These guys must just suck at talking to cops
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:36 am to DawgsLife
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The purpose of punishment is two fold. One is to rehabilitate the person that commits the offense. Two is to keep anybody else from committing the offense. If people keep screwing up, there must not be a big enough fear of what is going to happen to them.
And yet, I would be willing to bet more kids have been kicked off Georgia's team than any team in the country. Hard to get tougher than that.
Maybe they don't view getting kicked off as a punishment
kidding My point is, maybe thats not the right way to handle every situation. Its not the popular view, but maybe keeping the kids around and making them pay with team activities for an entire year after an offense is a better way to handle things.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:38 am to FlatwoodsForester
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CIYE should be careful, you can be sued for libel (or is it slander) for quoting someone when they didn't actually say what you're quoting them saying.
One more reason why He was booted from the GSB but, 9 pages of fluff from this thread is amazing regardless...
UGA football is the pinnacle of interest this year and hell, Auburn who was the 2013 BCS bridesmaid can't buy a headline and most people think South Carolina is still in the ACC.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:57 am to ArabianKnight
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Maybe they don't view getting kicked off as a punishment
Well when other major universities are willing to take them on and put them on scholarship, there really isn't much punishment.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:57 am to BarberitosDawg
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:43 am to CockInYourEar
Personally I think losing playing time is not working. Run their @$$e$ OFF and do community (University) service for crying out loud! Hell even force them to do more gym time. What ever helps the team! Playing time??? meh
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 11:45 am
Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:54 am to AirDawg
Solution: team vote
May the odds be ever in your favor...
May the odds be ever in your favor...
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:05 pm to boXerrumble
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I don't disagree with what he said.
Neither do I. I believe he's probably correct.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:08 pm to boXerrumble
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I don't disagree with what he said.
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