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re: Mark May: LSU best college secondary in the last 10 years

Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by gatorhata9
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:44 pm to
Murray: 4 1st half TD's. Take that shite to the bank.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:44 pm to
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How and why exactly did he determine the 10 year timeframe?


a stochastic gradient descent algorithm...
Posted by LSUlunatic
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:44 pm to
Special teams TDs by dbs is included in that.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:45 pm to
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But the secondary guys can still score on fumble returns



well i dont recall one fumble return for a td. maybe im missing one or two but i doubt four.

if he's counting matheiu's punt return and special teams fumble return and mo's kickoff return that's kinda silly imo.

eta: i remember matheiu's kentucky return now. so that's the six. 3 of those shouldnt count though imo.
This post was edited on 12/2/11 at 7:46 pm
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:46 pm to
Good luck with that.
Posted by FamousAmos
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:46 pm to
Ron Brooks has two pick 6s
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:46 pm to
mathieu had that scoop and score against kentucky. i think ron brooks may have a fumble return td too but not sure
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:47 pm to
Mathieu had one in the Kentucky game. And I'm guessing he's including TM7's fumble recovery for td against Oregon and the two special teams returns
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:47 pm to
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And the most swag I've ever seen on a defense...



Look at you singing that different tune
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:48 pm to
Ron Brooks two pick six's
Matheiu's fumble return against kentucky
those are the 3 db scores

Matheiu's two special teams scores and mo's special team score is kinda skewing the stats to just make it look good imo.
Posted by FamousAmos
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:50 pm to
One could argue that both Claiborne should have another pick 6 but ehh....
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:50 pm to
Yeah i mean Matheiu had a return to the 1 and Mo had an 80ish yard return.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:54 pm to
I think the point is they've collectively given up 6 passing td's but put the same number of td's on the board for LSU...they've offset every td.

When you add in the field position they've given the offense on takeaways, I'm sure the point differential is a big plus on their part.
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:55 pm to
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Bama had every player on defense on sec 1st team though


BAMA's defense is 1st overall, giving up an average of 8.8 points a game. LSU's is 2nd giving up 10.6 a game. I'll take BAMA's secondary.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:55 pm to
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Buchanon, Reed, Taylor... not even fair. How many passing TDs did they give up I wonder


Gave up 5 passing touchdowns. Took 6 interceptions back for touchdowns.
This post was edited on 12/2/11 at 7:57 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:57 pm to
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BAMA's defense is 1st overall, giving up an average of 8.8 points a game. LSU's is 2nd giving up 10.6 a game.


compare those averages against the average rank of offenses faced for both teams...
Posted by Mac
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:57 pm to
What about TM's fumble return against Oregon?
Posted by MasterMainieri
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 7:58 pm to
Passes attempted 30+ Yards: 6 Completions, 8 Ints against the Tigers. 16 picks total on the year. To beat this defense, you have to run the ball and be able to give your defense enough rest that they'll be somewhat conditioned in the 4th.

I can see this game being a 1-score game going into the 4th, but that Georgia D will eventually give. Take that to the bank..
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 8:00 pm to
We counted it.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 8:00 pm to
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BAMA's defense is 1st overall, giving up an average of 8.8 points a game. LSU's is 2nd giving up 10.6 a game. I'll take BAMA's secondary.



So what you are saying is you have the best fantasy Defense?

I'll take the 2 best CB's in CFB, and two more than solid safeties. :)
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