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Posted on 9/1/20 at 3:27 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 9/1/20 at 3:27 pm to lsufball19
You would have really hated Muhammad Ali and Jim Brown back in the day. Sports has always been a microcosm of society. You cant separate the 2.
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Posted on 9/1/20 at 3:32 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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You cant separate the 2.
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Posted on 9/1/20 at 3:33 pm to Sput
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You can bet your arse the activists on teams will demand to be out for it this year
I mean maybe but they are not currently so it was silly to bring up right now in a discussion about college football
Posted on 9/1/20 at 3:38 pm to lsufball19
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I think the rub is that they're not hearing or being exposed to both sides of the coin. Let's say a coach decided to have members from both parties and advocates from both sides of any current social issue in this country speak to the team so that they could then be able to form a fully educated stance on whatever that issue may be. How do you think that would go over in today's climate? I personally think that would be received very poorly, which is a problem. It's never healthy to live in an echo chamber nor is it conducive for productive discourse and progress.
I respect the hell out of fans who are boycotting sports and actually mean that they don't want any side of politics in sports. One problem is there are a bunch that talk a big game but will still watch and engage with all of the sports content. The other problem is many only have a problem with politics in their sports if it is something they disagree with
Posted on 9/1/20 at 3:39 pm to lsufball19
quote:I've gotten into the weeds with a few people about this in the past, but the people who are so upset over conservatives being "attacked" for their political beliefs seem to have a very different definition of "attacked" than I do. To me, they often use "attacked" to mean, "someone disagreed with me and called me a bad name." As someone who has been called, in person, everything but a child of God for expressing my own unpopular beliefs, you can imagine that I have limited sympathy for someone's trauma over a snippy tweet.
What's happening is people who lean to the right are being attacked for simply having different political beliefs which has only gotten more and more divisive really ever since Obama took office and has come to a head the past few years
As for public figures, most of whom are already some degree of famous or wealthy and typically got that way by being paid to express their opinions, their cries of being attacked smack of an attitude that can dish out harsh condemnations of the other side but can't take the same in return.
quote:I don't think this has happened. Taking a stand on an issue doesn't automatically mean that you dislike or or disrespect those who disagree with you. This is just an example of the same grievance-based, victim identity narrative that the conservative political movement has used to keep its voters loyal while accusing the other side of being its exclusive practitioners. I believe that those who are "done" with CFB over these issues are really just upset that an institution that they thought would always primarily reflect their own social and political views isn't in lockstep with them anymore.
So it begs the question, why should we spend our time, energy, and money on an entity that has told us, repeatedly, that they don't like us or how we think.
This post was edited on 9/1/20 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 9/1/20 at 3:41 pm to BroomfieldReb
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If you do not think this will effect the game, just look at the NBA TV ratings except that with the college game
People say this but I'm fairly sure their numbers in primetime have been good. The issue is that half of their playoff games have started before 5 and obviously that is going to hurt viewership and bring the overall numbers down. I guess we will get a clearer picture now that all games are played later in the day when more folks are able to watch.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 3:49 pm to Chuck Barris
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watch it later when you can fast forward past the parts that hurt your feelings.
I couldn’t agree more. Also, bwahahahahaha haha
Posted on 9/1/20 at 3:56 pm to Chuck Barris
It hurts your feelings that other people aren't going to watch. Now that is funny.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 3:56 pm to Mithridates6
Nobody knows if your eyes are on your tv. Unless you are streaming or have a Nielsen ratings book, there is no record of what channel you are watching.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 3:57 pm to tmjones2
It's almost like they were.........projecting.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 4:01 pm to LSU Patrick
quote:No, I'm actually fine with it. Do whatever you want with your own time.
It hurts your feelings that other people aren't going to watch. Now that is funny.
I just find the hypocrisy of the same people who criticize others for supposedly being unable to tolerate different opinions dropping a hobby that has been meaningful to them for decades because the players have an opinion they disagree with amusing and sad.
This post was edited on 9/1/20 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 9/1/20 at 4:03 pm to Chuck Barris
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No, I'm actually fine with it.
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I just find the hypocrisy of the same people who criticize others for supposedly being unable to tolerate different opinions dropping a hobby that has been meaningful to them for decades because the players have an opinion they disagree with amusing and sad.
Sweet melt.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 4:04 pm to rockiee
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I respect the hell out of fans who are boycotting sports and actually mean that they don't want any side of politics in sports. One problem is there are a bunch that talk a big game but will still watch and engage with all of the sports content. The other problem is many only have a problem with politics in their sports if it is something they disagree with
I've been a pretty die hard Memphis Grizzlies fans ever since they came to Memphis. Didn't watch a second of any of their games in the bubble. And I certainly agree that there are people that have a problem with politics in sports if the politics differ from their own. And I won't go as far to say I have a problem with athletes being involved politically on their own time. But when I turn on ESPN to watch a game or a sports talk show or when I go to watch a game in person, the absolute last thing I want is to be preached at about some political issue. That's not why I'm there. I'm there or watching to escape that type of stuff. It's kind of in the same breath of it no being polite to talk about politics and religion in mixed company. I have plenty of friends who have a completely different political ideology than I do. With some of them, we are able to civilly discuss political issues. With others, I know and they know that discussing those issues would not be productive, so we use our discretion and choose not to. It's just completely unnecessary to create divisiveness, and I don't know why so many people have such a hard time grasping that concept. Every social setting doesn't call for a platform to discuss politics.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 4:08 pm to Lee Chatelain
quote:What kind of family and friends do you have that would puss out on sports along with you?
I'm not watching...I am now down with the NBA, NFL, MLB< and college football.
Never watch most other sports. So I am now sportless. I will spend my time with family and friends from now on. They can have it all back.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 4:12 pm to Chuck Barris
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I believe that those who are "done" with CFB over these issues are really just upset that an institution that they thought would always primarily reflect their own social and political views isn't in lockstep with them anymore.
An institution like a University should never involve themselves with political issues one way or another. The moment they involve themselves, they effectively alienate a huge chunk of their base. That's never good for business and never has been. This isn't some new phenomenon. And this cuts both ways.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 4:12 pm to Mithridates6
No fans. No bars. No fanfare, tailgating, etc. Ratings will probably crash regardless. Politics doesn’t help either. Not even playing fantasy this year because there are too many question marks.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 4:14 pm to lsufball19
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lsufball19
Are you going to do something similar with LSU sports?
If this something you see yourself doing long term if things don't change?
The interesting part I think about is what if these sports don't lose the viewership/money that is required for them to do a 180, how many will hold out for a few years of not watching and how many will slowly adjust and come back?
Posted on 9/1/20 at 4:16 pm to lsufball19
quote:Wouldn't you agree that certain issues are of such moral significance that failing to take a stand out of fear of alienating people would actually be immoral?
An institution like a University should never involve themselves with political issues one way or another. The moment they involve themselves, they effectively alienate a huge chunk of their base.
Should a university exist as a completely value neutral institution that considers absolutely no cause to be worth advocating for?
Posted on 9/1/20 at 4:17 pm to rockiee
quote:Yep - Bookmark this thread and lets see if the OP, LSUPatrick, Lee Chatlain visit this board to post about LSU kicking arse this season.
I respect the hell out of fans who are boycotting sports and actually mean that they don't want any side of politics in sports. One problem is there are a bunch that talk a big game but will still watch and engage with all of the sports content. The other problem is many only have a problem with politics in their sports if it is something they disagree with
Coach Saban marched with his players in support of them, even though I'd have never done that, I'll watch every second of every Bama game. AND I'll watch every college football game that interests me this season.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 4:33 pm to RT1941
quote:That might not happen for reasons that have nothing to do with any boycott.
Bookmark this thread and lets see if the OP, LSUPatrick, Lee Chatlain visit this board to post about LSU kicking arse this season.
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