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re: Mac Jones Rankings

Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:25 pm to
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Not prevent. Prevent is used so you don't get beat long. The Ds don't fear that happening against Jones. But it is hard to stop the 5 yard crossing passes or screens. Jones is very accurate with that pass. With the Pats D, the Offense gets the ball back pretty quick, so the dinks and dunks do not have to sustain 11 play drives to win. Just score every now and then and let the D do the rest. It works against what the Pats Schedule has presented.


So defenses don't guard the long ball, no threat there. But yet at the same time you say defenses are willing to give up the underneath stuff.

So defenses only guard the 10-20 yard zone against him?

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:37 pm to
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So defenses don't guard the long ball, no threat there. But yet at the same time you say defenses are willing to give up the underneath stuff.



No dumbass, the Defenses keep an extra defender back to protect against the long ball. That is one of the schemes required in a prevent Defense. Not needed against Jones.

The underneath stuff is usually within 5 yards of the LOS and most Ds will allow that if that is all the offense has to offer. It is hard to sustain 11 play drives in the NFL. Damn, quit reading the Cult newsletter for your information and study the game.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 2:39 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22605 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:45 pm to
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No dumbass, the Defenses keep an extra defender back to protect against the long ball. That is one of the schemes required in a prevent Defense. Not needed against Jones.




Oh, so they do defend against the deep ball. Previously you said:

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Prevent is used so you don't get beat long. The Ds don't fear that happening against Jones.





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The underneath stuff is usually within 5 yards of the LOS and most Ds will allow that if that is all the offense has to offer. It is hard to sustain 11 play drives in the NFL. Damn, quit reading the Cult newsletter for your information and study the game.


I'm not the defenses who apparently think 5 yards per play isn't a big deal. So either they need to go study the game, or maybe....you are full of shite.

Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16158 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:05 pm to
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Dere he is


Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16158 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:06 pm to
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WillyT is really just an IronPuppet hanger-on these days.


He's C tier, just like LSU the last two seasons.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:17 pm to
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Oh, so they do defend against the deep ball. Previously you said:


Normal Defense dumbass. Prevent Defense is not normal Defense.

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I'm not the defenses who apparently think 5 yards per play isn't a big deal. So either they need to go study the game, or maybe....you are full of shite.



Again, you are just another dumbass that doesn't know anything about football. Five yard plays that have to go 80 yards require a 16 play drive. Coaches know that is not going to happen too many times, so they allow the underneath stuff. It becomes a problem if the Offense can mix up those plays with a deep throw, something that Jones hasn't proven he can throw in the NFL.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22605 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:28 pm to
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Normal Defense dumbass. Prevent Defense is not normal Defense.


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Again, you are just another dumbass that doesn't know anything about football. Five yard plays that have to go 80 yards require a 16 play drive. Coaches know that is not going to happen too many times, so the allow the underneath stuff. It becomes a problem if the Offense can mix up those plays with a deep throw, something that Jones hasn't proven he can throw in the NFL.



I guess with how easy this offense is to run, we can expect other teams to focus on defense and then only throw a bunch of 5 yard passes all game.

This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:31 pm to
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I guess with how easy this offense is to run, we can expect other teams to focus on defense and then only throw a bunch of 5 yard passes all game.



Man, your stupidity shines with every post.

Not every Offense has the Pats Defense to back them up. That is why you do not see many teams run the dink and dunk Offense unless their starter is injured.
Posted by csgau
On the dock of the Bay
Member since Jan 2014
580 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:39 pm to
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She's smoking.


Pigs get smoked.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22605 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:53 pm to
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Man, your stupidity shines with every post.

Not every Offense has the Pats Defense to back them up. That is why you do not see many teams run the dink and dunk Offense unless their starter is injured.


I bet you really do believe the shite you post.

I mean hell, if what you said is true, you'd think defenses would just start to defend them. Especially since you claim he can't do anything else.

Posted by artompkins
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by starkvingrad
Florida
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 3:56 pm to
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Irons Puppet


Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30598 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:00 pm to
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Dere he is!



He and Lil Billie can't help themselves! They are the text book version of addiction when it comes to Alabama.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30598 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:08 pm to
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It must be nice to slither into the best nfl program in the country.
You'd better go talk to IronsPuppet (a.k.a. SkyKing) about NE's program...he thinks it's shite.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:13 pm to
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You'd better go talk to IronsPuppet (a.k.a. SkyKing) about NE's program...he thinks it's shite.



No, airbnb, I think they live and die on their Defense. The can get away with a game manager as long as their D holds up.

PS-How is your sidekick reddog doing ? Hope he is not in hiding since last summers events. I am sure you can rent him a room if he is needing to have a low profile.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30598 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:20 pm to
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No, airbnb, I think they live and die on their Defense. The can get away with a game manager as long as their D holds up.

You've said many times that Brady, not belichick, was the reason for NE's success. Now you say they are in 1st place because of their defense!
You make Joe Biden look like George Washington!

PS-what are you talking about regarding last summer's events?..what are you referring to?
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:27 pm to
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You've said many times that Brady, not belichick, was the reason for NE's success. Now you say they are in 1st place because of their defense!
You make Joe Biden look like George Washington!



Brady was the reason for Belichick success, only a fool thinks different. This is not the Pats from 5 years ago, they are only winning because of their defense and a easy schedule. The Pats are 4th in the NFL total Defense, so they can live with the dink and dunk for now.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30598 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 4:40 pm to
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Brady was the reason for Belichick success, only a fool thinks different. This is not the Pats from 5 years ago, they are only winning because of their defense and a easy schedule. The Pats are 4th in the NFL total Defense, so they can live with the dink and dunk for now.

Mac is proving that Belichick was a huge reason for Brady's success!..and the situation has gotten so far up your arse that you've made yourself a laughing stock on this board.
Don't believe me...just read the posts from ALL SEC teams' fans. Face it..you're a fricking joke around here!
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16158 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 5:26 pm to
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you're a fricking joke around here!


Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 5:29 pm to
Cam had one great season, has mostly been subpar, and is now completely cooked.
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