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re: LSU now suing in federal court
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:53 am to thelawnwranglers
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:53 am to thelawnwranglers
I know, right? 
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:54 am to RealityTiger
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Your contract was nothing like his.
You are right. My employment contracts are better written, and my employers don't ignore written vacation stipulations when they are inconvenient.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:55 am to tmc94
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he took another job.
Fine. However, he started his new job before he fulfilled his obligations to LSU which was in breach of contract. He also did this at a new organization that is a direct competitor to his former employer. Hence damages owed.
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Um, how so? Are you suggesting it's not honorable to hire a coach when he's employed elsewhere? Are you saying it's not honorable to look for a job while employed? Y'alls morel values are myopic to say the least
No. Of course a coach can be hired while still employed. However, when you fail to fulfill your obligations to your former employer and work for its direct competitor while still claiming employment, don't you see the glaring conflict of interest there?
A&M was less than honorable by allowing Chavis to skirt his responsibilities to LSU. Chavis was less than honorable because he actively recruited to A&M while still being an LSU employee. Plus, let's not even discuss how he couldn't even tell his players he was going face to face like an adult...
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:55 am to ibldprplgld
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Aren't Aggys all about honor and doing what's right?
We are doing what's right, we are helping to defend poor Chavis.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:56 am to DontCare
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Chavis signed a contract that states he owes LSU $400K by leaving prior to Jan 31. Nothing more to it than that. Simple case.
Except he didn't officially leave prior to Jan 31. LSU has the burden of proof that he did, and those recruiting pictures aren't the slam dunk in court you think they are.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:57 am to cardboardboxer
Just stop. You never accepted a job with the salary and clauses that John Chavis had at LSU.
Unless you're gonna lie and tell us you were a coordinator.
Unless you're gonna lie and tell us you were a coordinator.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:57 am to Cooter Davenport
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Exactly.
I don't think these Louisiana frickwits have jobs.
Anyone who has been employed in a legitimate professional capacity knows
1) People change jobs constantly. It's not petsonal.
2) When you do, you get to take your accrued vacation and are still paid until it is up, OR they will just let you go immediately, pay you for two more weeks as if you were still coming to work and then cash you out your vacation days.
I've done it several times. That's the way it works.
Under employment at will. He was a contract employee which meant there were likely other requirements to his resignation. LSU contends he didn't fulfill those, so the vacation day story Aggys are running with could be moot.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:00 am to cardboardboxer
If you take a job with a competitor, most of the time your employer immediately has you escorted out and cuts off your access to the company.
Chavis handled his business very poorly, and all of this is merely LSU saying "F--k you" in no uncertain terms. He essentially quit on LSU while being employed at LSU.
Just look at the Music City Bowl tape and that's your proof he quit on LSU. Either that or consider it a preview of your Texas A&M defenses under that fat slob.
Chavis handled his business very poorly, and all of this is merely LSU saying "F--k you" in no uncertain terms. He essentially quit on LSU while being employed at LSU.
Just look at the Music City Bowl tape and that's your proof he quit on LSU. Either that or consider it a preview of your Texas A&M defenses under that fat slob.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:02 am to TexAgChill
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Frankly, I'm surprised. Chavis was instrumental in giving LSU its best football season - 2011. I would have expected more gratitude from LSU.
LSU's best football season was 1958, and No. 2 was 2003. Neither happened on Chavis' watch. Try again.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:03 am to ibldprplgld
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However, he started his new job before he fulfilled his obligations to LSU which was in breach of contract. He also did this at a new organization that is a direct competitor to his former employer. Hence damages owed.
Have you read his contract? Are you sure what Chavis did broke the contract? You are just assuming what is in it.
What I love about this case is that you corndogs are assuming a common man interpretation of events makes it a slam dunk. Court doesn't work like that. LSU has a burden of proof (the contract was valid, the contract was clear, Chavis quit before he made it official, etc) that is massive.
Anyone with half a brain looks at this and sees an eventual settlement.The idea that Chavis will outright lose in court, or the NCAA will get involved, is insane.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:04 am to cardboardboxer
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We are doing what's right, we are helping to defend poor Chavis.
The poor Chavis that acted dishonorably? Ah, I see. So when an Aggy says, "honor" he really means only things that are in the best interest of A&M, instead of what's really honorable.
Thanks for clarifying your misunderstanding of that word
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:10 am to cardboardboxer
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Have you read his contract? Are you sure what Chavis did broke the contract? You are just assuming what is in it.
What I love about this case is that you corndogs are assuming a common man interpretation of events makes it a slam dunk. Court doesn't work like that. LSU has a burden of proof (the contract was valid, the contract was clear, Chavis quit before he made it official, etc) that is massive.
Anyone with half a brain looks at this and sees an eventual settlement.The idea that Chavis will outright lose in court, or the NCAA will get involved, is insane.
also, A&M's Legal team watches Judge Judy every day at 3:00pm.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:11 am to cardboardboxer
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Have you read his contract? Are you sure what Chavis did broke the contract? You are just assuming what is in it.
I'm sure LSU's legal team is very familiar with the contents of the contract. It seems Chavis, however, is not.
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Court doesn't work like that. LSU has a burden of proof (the contract was valid, the contract was clear, Chavis quit before he made it official, etc) that is massive.
It should be pretty easy for LSU to show Chavis was in breach.
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Anyone with half a brain looks at this and sees an eventual settlement.The idea that Chavis will outright lose in court, or the NCAA will get involved, is insane.
I see a settlement, too. The question is how much as these legal fees just keep piling up... And don't you ever count out the NCAA; everyone with half a brain knows they rule in ways and on matters that make no sense. If I'm A&M, of course I'm hoping the NCAA doesn't sniff around this one, but you'd be remiss to think they won't just because.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:11 am to RealityTiger
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Just stop. You never accepted a job with the salary and clauses that John Chavis had at LSU.
Employment is employment. Judges normally don't like contracts that are poorly written in the benefit of the employer.
The wildcard is Louisiana employment laws, but something tells me those protect employees from bad contracts even more than in Texas.
The problem for LSU is that is doesn't matter what is right and what is wrong. What matters is what is in the contract and what LSU can prove.
This could be a lot of egg on the face of the LSU AD if that contract is as poorly written as has been implied on the A&M side. At worst we settle, so we really can't "lose" this case like many of y'all hope.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:12 am to Aggie Dynasty
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also, A&M's Legal team watches Judge Judy every day at 3:00pm.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:14 am to ibldprplgld
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It should be pretty easy for LSU to show Chavis was in breach.
Because of some photos of him giving a thumbs up?
That is not the resignation letter you are looking for. I promise a judge will want more.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:14 am to ibldprplgld
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I'm sure LSU's legal team is very familiar with the contents of the contract.
Which contract? The one that LSU illegally modified after Chavis signed it?
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:17 am to cardboardboxer
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That is not the resignation letter you are looking for. I promise a judge will want more.
Probably. This is why LSU filed for discovery.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:18 am to cheo25
LSU takes the case to Judge Judy.
LSU Lawyer: Coach Chavis don't love us anymore Judy. He lefted us and we gonna suck now.
Judge Judy: bunch of pussies, get out of my courtroom.
LSU Lawyer: Coach Chavis don't love us anymore Judy. He lefted us and we gonna suck now.
Judge Judy: bunch of pussies, get out of my courtroom.
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