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re: LSU looking to go full pass attack in 2021
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:49 am to bamameister
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:49 am to bamameister
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Careful sideways, I almost thought a real football thought was coming out of your noggins. At least you got your gif right.
Your statement that all spread teams struggle to stay physical at the LOS and score in the redzone is laughable.
Do you even know what a spread offense is?
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:53 am to SidewalkTiger
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Your statement that all spread teams struggle to stay physical at the LOS and score in the redzone is laughable.
That's because I didn't say that. I said staying balanced is the hardest thing the spread attack faces against ELITE defenses. Which is exactly who you are going to be playing against to win it all.
Tell me again, how did you lose that Missouri game?
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:56 am to bamameister
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That's because I didn't say that. I said staying balanced is the hardest thing the spread attack faces against ELITE defenses. Which is exactly who you are going to be playing against to win it all.
bullshite, here's your exact statement:
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The problem was and is with all spread teams is the ability to stay physical at the LOS and finish drives
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:07 am to SidewalkTiger
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bullshite, here's your exact statement:
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I never said some haven't done it, my point was, it was and is the challenge for all spread teams.
ALABAMA just did it. Compared to the 2018 BAMA model that was scoring pinball numbers, we weren't physical enough at the LOS, and when we needed to run we often came up short. We didn't finish in the red zone for all the marbles against Clemson. Moving the ball inside the 20s was no problem.
This 2020 Alabama team ran the ball with physicality when it wanted to. That's balance. Najee Harris led all running backs in the nation with TDs. He finished drives.
Therein lies the difference between being in the NC and bringing home the gold.
Are you now going to explain how LSU lost that Missouri game?
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:09 am to jfootball14
Brennan needs to slick back that hair like Pat Riley. That’s not a football haircut.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:10 am to bamameister
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I never said some haven't done it, my point was, it was and is the challenge for all spread teams.
Why is it a challenge for spread teams?
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ALABAMA just did it. Compared to the 2018 BAMA model that was scoring pinball numbers, we weren't physical enough at the LOS, and when we needed to run we often came up short. We didn't finish in the red zone for all the marbles against Clemson. Moving the ball inside the 20s was no problem.
This 2020 Alabama team ran the ball with physicality when it wanted to. That's balance. Najee Harris led all running backs in the nation with TDs. He finished drives.
Alabama was running a spread offense both times.
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Are you now going to explain how LSU lost that Missouri game?
The offensive line wasn't good, had nothing to do with running a spread offense vs a pro style offense.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:14 am to SidewalkTiger
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Why is it a challenge for spread teams?
What's the name of this thread?
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:16 am to bamameister
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What's the name of this thread?
Why are you deflecting now?
OP obviously misinterpreted a quote but you've been talking about all the challenges that spread teams face yet you can't actually seem to articulate as to why.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:28 am to SidewalkTiger
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Why are you deflecting now?
OP obviously misinterpreted a quote but you've been talking about all the challenges that spread teams face yet you can't actually seem to articulate as to why.
Pretty sure the articulation is just fine. Now the comprehension on your end, not so much.
Lots of spread teams have gone all-in on the pass first concept. It apparently has escaped your notice but this past season LSU model moved the ball consistently through the air, even through all your ups and downs with revolving QBs. LSU moved the ball through the air against BAMA. But you couldn't run. 2019 could run. It cost you dearly all season. I don't care why you weren't as balanced. I'm saying that's the challenge for all spread teams every single year.
My suggestion for the OP, if he didn't mean what he wrote, change it. Otherwise, I take it at face value.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:30 am to bamameister
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I'm saying that's the challenge for all spread teams every single year.
Why do spread teams face that challenge as opposed to anyone else?
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:56 am to SidewalkTiger
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Why do spread teams face that challenge as opposed to anyone else?
Why did LSU struggle to stay balanced in the passing attack under Les Miles? What were you guys complaining about for so long? You were a pro set, run-first offense, often I-formation team that was built and designed to take someone's lunch money and beat em down in the second half. That physicality and the downhill running game translated to playing to the defense with TOP and field position.
The spread is much more open, depends on speed, misdirection, and finesse, than getting into someone's helmet grill every play. So, now you Cajuns have got that passing attack you were always coveting during the Les Miles era. Now, you're struggling with finishing drives on the ground in the red zone and tough yardage situations during games. The physicality is the challenge and the attack at the LOS. Bet that same OL you just criticized did fairly decent in protecting the QB? That's your tradeoff.
And lord knows, not only did your style of spread not play to defensive principles but often left those guys hanging out to dry. Another subject altogether, but still a consequence of the new age spread concepts.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 9:02 am to bamameister
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The spread is much more open, depends on speed, misdirection, and finesse, than getting into someone's helmet grill every play.
Doesn't mean it favors the pass more than the run
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Now, you're struggling with finishing drives on the ground in the red zone and tough yardage situations during games. The physicality is the challenge and the attack at the LOS.
After a season where we replaced 4/5 starting offensive lineman.
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Bet that same OL you just criticized did fairly decent in protecting the QB? That's your tradeoff.
No they didn't
our quarterbacks were running for their lives most of the time. quote:
Another subject altogether, but still a consequence of the new age spread concepts.
No it isnt.
You seem to have some major misconceptions about spread offenses.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 9:06 am to jfootball14
Not surprised an aggy thinks spread means all passing attack
Posted on 2/14/21 at 9:14 am to SidewalkTiger
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Doesn't mean it favors the pass more than the run
Has nothing to do with different styles of everyone's choice of HUNH RPO schemes, it had to do with everyone's ability to stay BALANCED in that scheme. It's why I mentioned LSU specifically.
Your Mickey Mouse understanding of college football schemes is getting in the way. Best keep those gifs coming.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 9:52 am to bamameister
Your original comment:
You haven't explained this, just a bunch of incoherent ramblings about 2020 LSU (who had a bad offensive line) and the Chiefs vs Tampa Bay (the Chiefs had multiple starters on the offensive line out).
My theory on what happened here is that OP mistakenly thought "all spread" meant "all pass" and apparently you thought the same.
Spread offenses have shown no less ability to be balanced than pro style offenses on a whole, in fact, a team like 2014 Ohio State ran the the ball a good deal more than they threw it.
You play to your personnel.
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Going "all spread" is maybe the worst description of winning football there is.
You haven't explained this, just a bunch of incoherent ramblings about 2020 LSU (who had a bad offensive line) and the Chiefs vs Tampa Bay (the Chiefs had multiple starters on the offensive line out).
My theory on what happened here is that OP mistakenly thought "all spread" meant "all pass" and apparently you thought the same.
Spread offenses have shown no less ability to be balanced than pro style offenses on a whole, in fact, a team like 2014 Ohio State ran the the ball a good deal more than they threw it.
You play to your personnel.
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:12 pm to SidewalkTiger
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You play to your personnel.
So what is the offense of a bunch of soft quitters?
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:17 pm to ColoradoAg
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You play to your personnel.
So what is the offense of a bunch of soft quitters?
Well, if the players quit then they wouldn't be part of the personnel.
Posted on 2/16/21 at 4:04 am to TigerLunatik
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Well, if the players quit then they wouldn't be part of the personnel
Dude was trying too hard
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:41 am to nicholastiger
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A&M led 44-10 with 4:00 left in third quarter and found a way to lose the game,
at Aggy
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