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re: LSU, Georgia have best strength of wins

Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:41 pm to
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That's a good point.

Maybe college football needs to establish a system like college hoops has with a quadrant rating system.

Whatever they decide, they need to select an objective rating system and apply it to all teams.

You wanna schedule Western Tennessee Regional Community College? Fine, but you're only hurting your playoff chances.


I'd be in favor of something like the recruiting ranking formulas, where your best opponents (as opposed to recruits) get weighted more in the average.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:44 pm to
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I'd be in favor of something like the recruiting ranking formulas, where your best opponents (as opposed to recruits) get weighted more in the average.



Agree. Wins against top teams help you out more, and losses to top teams don't hurt quite as much.

Going simply by the Win-Loss columns just doesn't cut it when there are only 4 spots and such huge disparity in team SOS.
Posted by cyclingout
God's country, SC
Member since Apr 2019
2238 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:46 pm to
Why aren't NFL teams just made up of only SEC players? I mean they are clearly head and shoulders better than everyone else, so why don't they just put an SEC player at every position
Posted by 24nights
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:48 pm to
Show us on the doll where the SEC touched you
Posted by LSU Tigerhead
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

I'd be in favor of something like the recruiting ranking formulas, where your best opponents (as opposed to recruits) get weighted more in the average.
You mean like 130 pts if you beat a #1 ranked team, 129 pts beating a #2 ranked team, etc? Curious to work that out.
Posted by cyclingout
God's country, SC
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:49 pm to
Nice deflection
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
6149 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:51 pm to
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You mean like 130 pts if you beat a #1 ranked team, 129 pts beating a #2 ranked team, etc? Curious to work that out.


Not that simple/linear but yeah, something like that. I'd probably use a Gaussian bell curve like the 247 recruiting ranking formulas do as a first attempt, then would tweak the system from there if it seemed to need tweaking.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 7:53 pm
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:56 pm to
I hate these kinds of metrics. I don’t care if one team beat #80 and the other beat # 100. After all, neither team should have any shot of beating a team that the playoff committee is considering.
I do, however, care if one team beat #5 and the other beat #25. There is a huge difference in those two teams odds of beating a top team.
Nothing outside about the top 30-40 should even count when considering SOS unless they beat you.
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
6149 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:59 pm to
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I hate these kinds of metrics. I don’t care if one team beat #80 and the other beat # 100. After all, neither team should have any shot of beating a team that the playoff committee is considering.
I do, however, care if one team beat #5 and the other beat #25. There is a huge difference in those two teams odds of beating a top team.
Nothing outside about the top 30-40 should even count when considering SOS unless they beat you.


I don't agree completely, but I agree in spirit. I would say that how you perform against mediocre teams gives some info, just not nearly as much as how you perform against good-to-great teams.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 8:00 pm
Posted by myflabbersghasted
Member since Jan 2019
168 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:09 pm to
During the CFP era, Clemson's record against the SEC is 11-2, a slate that includes 4 games against the team has gone 44-5 against its fellow conference members. Clemson will point to the sore rib cage on the doll...hurt from laughter.
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