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re: LSU Defensive Player That Was "Targeted"

Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
18579 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:12 pm to
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So in the opinion of the refs (the only opinion that matters), the player was defenseless.


Right. They got the call wrong. They mistakingly had the opinion that the blocker was not in the field of vision of the defender, when clips of the play show that opinion to be objectively false.
This post was edited on 10/27/24 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
18579 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:12 pm to
dp
This post was edited on 10/27/24 at 10:13 pm
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
5568 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:14 pm to
Didn’t y’all win? Why in the frick would you care about a completely inconsequential call that had zero effect on the outcome?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
28932 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:15 pm to
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A blind side block comes from the blind side. They were both squared up looking at each other.


No, the player just has to be outside of their field of vision. This is directly from the rule book.

quote:

Blind-Side Block ARTICLE 7 A blind-side block is an open field block against an opponent that is initiated from outside the opponent’s field of vision, or otherwise in such a manner that the opponent cannot reasonably defend themselves against the block


quote:

End A81 is split far to the left of the formation, to the outside of defensive end B89 On a sweep play in B89’s direction he moves to his left to focus on the ball carrier, losing sight of A81 A81 then cuts to the inside, takes aim and launches at B89, forcibly contacting him with his forearm to B89’s neck RULING: Foul for blind-side block with targeting Under Rule 9-14, 15 yard penalty, A81 is disqualified B89 is a defenseless player as he is subject to the blind-side block (Rule 2-27-14)


Look by every definition in the Rule book, it was targeting.
This post was edited on 10/27/24 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
18579 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:15 pm to
1. We'd like to have player for USCe.
2. The officials sucked and we're still a little pissed by it.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61070 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:19 pm to
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The officials sucked and we're still a little pissed by it.


They really didn't, anyone who is "pissed" just doesn't understand the rules.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
18579 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:19 pm to
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Look by every definition in the rule book, it was targeting.


You're just so stupidly wrong on this. The only reason it was targeting was because the defender was ruled defenseless. And the reason the player was ruled defenseless is because the blocker was ruled to be on his blind side. And there is ONE DEFINITION for a blindside block in the rule book - namely, a block when the offensive player is outside the field of vision of the defender.

But go back and look at the clip. He was OBVIOUSLY and CLEARLY in the defenders field of vision.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
28932 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:22 pm to
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He was OBVIOUSLY and CLEARLY in the defenders field of vision.


Ok, even if that it true, this part still applies.

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or otherwise in such a manner that the opponent cannot reasonably defend themselves against the block


The player was unable to defend himself, therefore he was defenseless and therefore it was targeting. Sorry, but the refs got it right.

This post was edited on 10/27/24 at 10:23 pm
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
18579 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:24 pm to
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The player was unable to defend himself,


Why was the player unable to defend himself?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:24 pm to
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Why was the player unable to defend himself?


He was blind.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61070 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

But go back and look at the clip. He was OBVIOUSLY and CLEARLY in the defenders field of vision.


I did, Ryan turns and look at Walker just as Walker hits him hence the blindside part.

All of the Aggie X accounts reposting the video conveniently start the video after Ryan has turned his head.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
28932 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:30 pm to
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Why was the player unable to defend himself?


Because he was solely focused on the ball carrier. Look there is almost this exact scenario spelled out in the rule book (If you'd take the time to read it).

quote:

End A81 is split far to the left of the formation, to the outside of defensive end B89 On a sweep play in B89’s direction he moves to his left to focus on the ball carrier, losing sight of A81 A81 then cuts to the inside, takes aim and launches at B89, forcibly contacting him with his forearm to B89’s neck RULING: Foul for blind-side block with targeting Under Rule 9-14, 15 yard penalty, A81 is disqualified B89 is a defenseless player as he is subject to the blind-side block (Rule 2-27-14)


The only difference here is that player A81 (TA&M #9) hits the defender with his head and not his forearm.
This post was edited on 10/27/24 at 10:31 pm
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
14357 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:31 pm to
Nah, y’all soft.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61070 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:34 pm to
Sage Ryan is pretty soft, was dumb for your player to even do that, he could have shoved Ryan to the ground easily.
This post was edited on 10/27/24 at 10:35 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61070 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:45 pm to
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Because he was solely focused on the ball carrier. 


Correct. 3 doesn't even look at 9 until he's basically getting hit.

Aggie X accounts are getting all outraged over a video that's clipped after his head is turned and saying they were facing each other.





Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8323 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:48 pm to
I just don’t know how you can play safety and not keep aware of blockers.

Unreasonable to punish blockers for this lack of awareness..
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
18579 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:49 pm to
Thanks for those stillshots. Really makes it objectively obvious that the blocker was in the field of vision of the defender. Plain as day.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61070 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

I just don’t know how you can play safety and not keep aware of blockers.



To be fair, he's not a very good safety.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61070 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

Thanks for those stillshots. Really makes it objectively obvious that the blocker was in the field of vision of the defender. Plain as day.



You're a victim of your own willful ignorance, at this point.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
18579 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:52 pm to
And you apparently don't have eyes to see.
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