re: Les Miles Will Not Win Another SEC Championship At LSU

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It's great to be on top!

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enjoy it while it lasts. i'm sure you're not worried about what Saban is building at all.

this thread btw was ONLY in hopes to catch people that would take it seriously. :P

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There will be no dominant team in SEC for years to come.

Richt, Meyer, Spurrier, Kiffin

Saban, Miles, Nutt, Petrino


too many good coaches for any one team to dominant

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good call. i actually do fear this to be true. except that we got a defensive mastermind at the helm. so, naturally, i have to give us the nod.

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Richt, Meyer, Spurrier, Kiffin

Saban, Miles, Nutt, Petrino


too many good coaches for any one team to dominant

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Don't know if I'd include Kiffin in any list of "good coaches"

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Miles isn't as good a coach as Saban and that Miles is definitely a good coach

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That is your opinion. I personally think they both have their strengths and weaknesses. My opinion of Miles and Saban is that they are peers. I don't feel like they need to be ranked because they both are great recruiters and both of their resumes dictate they are among the elite.

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chill out there hombre. it's called an opinion. if i didn't know any better, it SOUNDS like you have issues with either anger, resentment or jealousy (or a combination).

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I don't have issues I am just tired of people starting threads with horrible logic. People want to call the successes at LSU as Saban's and they want to blame Miles for the bad stuff. It is stupid. Now if Miles wasn't a great recruiter then it would IMO open the door for some criticism, but the guy can recruit.

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so i could chose to give Miles more credit for the wins, but i just can't. he doesn't seem like the key ingredient to LSU's success post-Saban

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Please explain what the key ingredient is to LSU's success. I personally think it is the tons of talent in LA; however, a complete Saban lover wouldn't want to believe that because that takes away from his greatness.

The Bama job relied on the history of the Bama program(which has mainly been shite for the young recruits lives). Bama is also located amongst the enemy and the state of Alabama is not as talent rich as other states. I personally feel it was bs that Saban took credit for the success of Miles and the media sucked him off like they do with Obama. The combination of this and the buzz has gotten Bama back in the game so fast. Miles not getting credit pisses me off to no end. It is completely unfair and no logic supports it.

So you think Saban is the greatest, but he is a peer with Miles, Richt, and Meyer(I would say Spurrier too, but he is at a shitty program). They are all elite coaches in their own way and their resumes back it up.

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Richt, Meyer, Spurrier, Kiffin

Saban, Miles, Nutt, Petrino

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Someone explain how these guys are good coaches. I personally feel that Nutt has proven over 11 years in the SEC that he is a mediocre coach and should have been fired years ago.

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Meyer won a BCSNC with Zook players. This will be the last year that Zook players are on the team

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Zook blew as a coach. Awesome recruiter, but couldnt coach for shite. didnt have a good staff around him. Would not have won a NC with Zook as coach

Put the bottle down

2008 Gator O had only 2 starters that were signed by Zook, tackles Phil Trautwein and Jason Watkins

2008 Gator D was entirely Meyer's recruits.

miles is gone. petrino is gone.

miles will be gone because LSU fans have gotten 2 NC in a very short period of time. they are ravenously hungry for wins, and i don't think he'll be there for 4 years. petrino is gone in 4 years because the competition will be too stiff.

but i mean, that's if i was forced to make a bet. there's really no damn telling at all.

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What a stupid post.

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you talkin to me brah? cause it doesnt make sense at all

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Kiffin is putting good coaches around him and recruiting top tier recruits. The dude has pedigree, just because he is arrogant does not mean he cant be a good SEC coach. Until he proves other wise he will be considered good, the Raiders actually improved a little under him.

Nutt, he has been to a couple SEC championship games, dont see how you could say he is a bad coach. I mean every other year Arkansas put out a good team that competed for the West. Last year was another example of him fielding a team that did not have much in way of expectations and exceeded them.

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I personally don't have as much of a problem with Kiffin, but he doesn't have much of a resume proving he is a peer among the other coaches. I think he has great potential and as long as he doesn't do something stupid will do well at UT.

Nutt IMO does not belong with that group. Fulmer and Tuberville just got fired and they are better coaches.

Now I wouldn't call anyone in the group bad, but a couple of the coaches jumped out as not belonging.

The other six coaches have proven to be of the coaching elite at one time or another. Again Kiffin hasn't proven anything as a college HC and that is where my criticism comes from.

Nutt has consistently fielded strong teams at Arkansas which isnt exactly a hot bed for recruiting talent.
He is innovative and smart offense guy, he has won the SEC West 3 times since 98.

Richt has won the East 3 times since 01 neither have played in a NC game.