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re: Lane Kiffin on Tennessee, the strength of the SEC, recruiting
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:22 pm to ohiovol
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:22 pm to ohiovol
This: "I understand why the people there still feel bitter towards me, I understand that completely. They knew we were doing something special there. It hurt to leave"
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Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:23 pm to Tiger Authority
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This: "I understand why the people there still feel bitter towards me, I understand that completely. They knew we were doing something special there. It hurt to leave"
It may not have hurt him to leave, but what else wasn't true? I'm pretty sure he fully believes he was going to do well here, and Vols fans believed it, too.
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:27 pm to ohiovol
I saw nothing in his short tenure that would lead me to believe that he was heading in the right direction as a program and was challenging for returning the Vols to conference supremacy akin to what we saw in the 90's. He can say that all he wants, but being loud and polarizing doesn't mean you're being successful or that the conference is concerned about the return of Tenn. At no point was I thinking that his teams were on the verge of becoming a power again. Not sure why y'all felt they were.
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:30 pm to Tiger Authority
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I saw nothing in his short tenure that would lead me to believe that he was heading in the right direction as a program and was challenging for returning the Vols to conference supremacy akin to what we saw in the 90's. He can say that all he wants, but being loud and polarizing doesn't mean you're being successful or that the conference is concerned about the return of Tenn. At no point was I thinking that his teams were on the verge of becoming a power again. Not sure why y'all felt they were.
The 2009 team was definitely well coached, and looked impressive at times, before depth became too big of an issue.
Also, recruiting was picking up, and the 2010 class would have been a lot better if Kiffin had stayed.
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:31 pm to ohiovol
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The 2009 team was definitely well coached, and looked impressive at times, before depth became too big of an issue.
How was depth an issue against UCLA, Ole Miss, and Auburn?
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:31 pm to ohiovol
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The 2009 team was definitely well coached, and looked impressive at times, before depth became too big of an issue.
Also, recruiting was picking up, and the 2010 class would have been a lot better if Kiffin had stayed.
This just tells me where your expectations were: really really low. He didn't do anything of note at Tennessee, but states that he was about to? Sure dude (Kiffin), I believe you.
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:33 pm to UTVols2618
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How was depth an issue against UCLA, Ole Miss, and Auburn?
It was a big problem against Ole Miss.
UCLA and Auburn had more to do with Crompton. Took a while for them to turn him around.
This post was edited on 8/7/12 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:34 pm to Tiger Authority
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At no point was I thinking that his teams were on the verge of becoming a power again. Not sure why y'all felt they were.
He was a couple blocked field goals from ruining Alabama's NC run and beat SC and UGA convincingly. Losing to UCLA and Auburn were games that we should've won, both of which were lost by a combined 8 points. Not to mention the Bama game which was luck
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:34 pm to Tiger Authority
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This just tells me where your expectations were: really really low. He didn't do anything of note at Tennessee, but states that he was about to? Sure dude (Kiffin), I believe you.
Not sure what you were trying to say. The class was going to be a lot better if he didn't leave. That's not really debatable.
This post was edited on 8/7/12 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:36 pm to ohiovol
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Not sure what you were trying to say. The class was going to be a lot better if he didn't leave. That's not really debatable.
I'm just saying that he was so mediocre record wise that you are relegated to discussing the merits of his "to be" recruiting class. I'm not going to debate you, he was maybe about to recruit well. He calls that a success like he actually did something. He never did though from my vantage point.
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:37 pm to Tiger Authority
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I'm just saying that he was so mediocre record wise that you are relegated to discussing the merits of his "to be" recruiting class. I'm not going to debate you, he was maybe about to recruit well. He calls that a success like he actually did something. He never did though from my vantage point.
A lot of great coaches don't really do that well their first year. No one was expecting to go 9-3.
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:38 pm to Supravol22
Oneblocked field goal is luck. Two means you have a shitty kicker. If one team knows this, it's Bama.
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:38 pm to ohiovol
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A lot of great coaches don't really do that well their first year. No one was expecting to go 9-3.
Well he has no leg to stand on other than the possibility of a good recruiting class. Those are a dime a dozen in this conference.
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:39 pm to Tiger Authority
Kiffin is a top 5 recruiter in America, why would he not believe he was getting the players necessary to do well at Tennessee?
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:40 pm to ohiovol
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It was a big problem against Ole Miss.
UCLA and Auburn had more to do with Crompton. Took a while for them to turn him around.
The Ole Miss game had to do with Monte not being able to stop the spread. He couldn't do at UT, and he is still struggling in the pac 12. That game was a pathetic showing. UT was outplayed, outcoached, and looked awful.
Crompton played bad in the UCLA game, but there is 0 excuse to only score 15 points at home against UCLA. They should have switched their game plan up.
Crompton threw for 250 yards and two tds with 0 picks against Auburn. Not sure how he cost them that game
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:41 pm to volfan30
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Kiffin is a top 5 recruiter in America, why would he not believe he was getting the players necessary to do well at Tennessee?
He can believe it all he wants. But the fact of the matter is that saying you were about to do something great doesn't mean you actually did or would. The dynamics at Tennessee and USC are not one in the same so any success at USC is not a testament to what he could have done at Tenn. So I just find his entire rant absurd and typical.
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:41 pm to UTVols2618
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The Ole Miss game had to do with Monte not being able to stop the spread. He couldn't do at UT, and he is still struggling in the pac 12. That game was a pathetic showing. UT was outplayed, outcoached, and looked awful.
Tennessee did a lot better against Florida. There were multiple injuries on defense between then and Ole Miss.
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They should have switched their game plan up.
I didn't like the call at the end. Not a lot you can do with awful quarterback play, though.
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Crompton threw for 250 yards and two tds with 0 picks against Auburn. Not sure how he cost them that game
How much of that was right at the end when the game was already over?
This post was edited on 8/7/12 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:42 pm to UTVols2618
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Crompton played bad in the UCLA game, but there is 0 excuse to only score 15 points at home against UCLA. They should have switched their game plan up.
Switched it up and gone right after Keith Price with the Sullins twins, Jarrod Shaw, and Jacques McClendon leading the way?
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:44 pm to volfan30
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Switched it up and gone right after Keith Price with the Sullins twins, Jarrod Shaw, and Jacques McClendon leading the way?
But the Sullins twins tried hard. That was a great offensive line!
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:44 pm to ohiovol
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A lot of great coaches don't really do that well their first year. No one was expecting to go 9-3.
With talent they do.
Dennis Erickson, Brady Hoke, Gary Patterson, Chris Petersen, Les Miles, and Mark Richt did
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