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re: Lane Kiffin on Tennessee, the strength of the SEC, recruiting

Posted on 8/7/12 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29286 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 12:56 pm to
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Yeah he really impressed me with that 7-6 record and buttfricking in the bowl game his only year here. He would've been a good coach, but not that good


Look what he is doing at USC. I mean granted USC is a better program than Tennessee at every level, but UT still has some pretty good resources, a great coach with some resources won't always get it done, but there is still a pretty good chance.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20959 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 12:56 pm to
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I'll never understand this love affair.
Dooley hasn't exactly made it easy to ignore the fact that USC is a preseason top 5 team.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27050 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 12:56 pm to
Anyone can coach at USC and win...the place recruits itself.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20959 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 12:58 pm to
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Anyone can coach at USC and win...the place recruits itself.


That simply isn't true.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 12:59 pm to
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Anyone can coach at USC and win...the place recruits itself.



correct. top 3 jobs in college football are USC, Texas and Florida imo because of all the talent.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 1:01 pm to
The younger crowd likes Lane Kiffin because he relates well to people my age and has swag. Why do you think he recruits so well? He can get younger people to buy in.

The older crowd who has seen Bill Battle as head coach and has seen UT in rebuild mode before understands the situation.

I'm 21, and some of my friends think Kiffin was going to take UT to new levels. I'm one of the few people my age that didn't like Kiffin when he was here.

Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 1:04 pm to
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Look what he is doing at USC. I mean granted USC is a better program than Tennessee at every level, but UT still has some pretty good resources, a great coach with some resources won't always get it done, but there is still a pretty good chance.


USC was able to redshirt 16 freshmen last year. That is more than UT in the past 2 years combined. They have a total of 30 scholarship juniors and seniors. He is still using a lot of Carrol's recruits. It is way to early to judge.

USC scholarship count
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 1:05 pm to
I'm 21 and I understand that Fulmer really hurt the program in his last couple years of not recruiting and then Kiffin came in and dug us into a deeper hole. This is the first year that UT has been at full strength in almost half a decade
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 1:06 pm to
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That simply isn't true.



Anyone who halfway knows what they are doing can coach and win at places like USC, Texas, Florida, and Alabama, just to name a few. Lane Kiffin is recruiting lights out because California is one of the most talent-rich states in all America. Plus, USC is a national brand so they can lure recruits from anywhere in the country to come play for them.

Tennessee doesn't have that same luxury.

Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20959 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 1:44 pm to
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Anyone who halfway knows what they are doing can coach and win at places like USC, Texas, Florida, and Alabama, just to name a few. Lane Kiffin is recruiting lights out because California is one of the most talent-rich states in all America. Plus, USC is a national brand so they can lure recruits from anywhere in the country to come play for them.

Tennessee doesn't have that same luxury.


1. USC wasn't doing so hot before Carroll.
2. Kiffin and Orgeron unquestionably had a role in USC getting where they were under Carroll.
Posted by InVolNerable
Member since Jan 2012
10227 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:01 pm to
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he destroyed your program with all the thugs he brought in that didn't pan out.....from the louisiana kid to the stud runningback that left.....you guys at tenn are really fricked in the head if you think lane kiffin did anything positive for your school. I lol at kiffin saying he laid the foundation for tenn.....


If you can't even name Janzen Jackson and Bryce Brown your opinion doesn't count.

Kiffin
This post was edited on 8/7/12 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:03 pm to
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I understand why the people there still feel bitter towards me, I understand that completely. They knew we were doing something special there. It hurt to leave,


The frick?
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:08 pm to
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Exactly,he recruited too many questionable character guys,he left them all fricked up.


+1000
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:13 pm to
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quote:Anyone can coach at USC and win...the place recruits itself.


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That simply isn't true.


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ohiovol


See how many times USC has won their conference.Note the difference in their recruiting ranks and the wide gap between the rest of their conference.

Research John McKay and John Robinson.

Kiffin is a spoiled brat!
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20959 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:14 pm to
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See how many times USC has won their conference.Note the difference in their recruiting ranks and the wide gap between the rest of their conference.

Research John McKay and John Robinson.


I'm not saying they were never good. I'm just saying it's silly to think everyone would win there, becuase multiple guys failed miserably prior to Carroll.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:15 pm to
It's a good job because it's easy to win there though.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20959 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:17 pm to
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It's a good job because it's easy to win there though.


It's definitely a great job. It's just silly when people claim everyone could recruit as well as he is, because multiple guys clearly couldn't.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:19 pm to
You could say that about any job. But still, some jobs are much much easier to win at considering geographic proximity to talent and conference. They are in a great location, recruit nationally, have a lot of ESPN help due to location, and are in a relatively weak conference. It's a great situation.

But I still take a lot of issue with the total bullshite Kiffin spews in that interview. Guy is totally full of shite.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46785 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:20 pm to
Kiffin stood up to Florida. That is the sole basis of any Vols appreciation for him. Fulmer never would stand up to Spurrier and the Vols loved Kiffin because they didn't want to be the butt of the jokes anymore. Didn't matter that he had no clue what he was doing and was cheating his arse off. They were tired of gettting pushed around by UF. It was the younger fans who think running off at the mouth is cool.

FWIW, most of the older UF fans always wanted Spurrier to STFU. They didn't appreciate his mouth like the younger UF fans.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20959 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 2:21 pm to
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You could say that about any job. But still, some jobs are much much easier to win at considering geographic proximity to talent and conference. They are in a great location, recruit nationally, have a lot of ESPN help due to location, and are in a relatively weak conference. It's a great situation.


Sure, but that doesn't mean his recruiting hasn't been outstanding.

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But I still take a lot of issue with the total bullshite Kiffin spews in that interview. Guy is totally full of shite.


What exactly are you referring to?
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