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re: Lane Kiffin officially out as the OC per Saban!

Posted on 1/2/17 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 3:42 pm to
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He wasn't allowed to have contact with the team though until recently, correct?


If you believe that I've got some oceanfront property Nebraska for you. Anybody who thinks that Saban adheres to the 20-hour rule, the limited number of coaches rule, or any other rule is kidding themselves. The dude is a ruthless winning machine and he could give two shits about the rules. Any rules.
Posted by LSUPRS
Member since Sep 2010
155 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 3:43 pm to
Agree. Its the Jimmies and Joes not the x and os that are the pillars of his success and highlights his failure in NFL.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8427 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 3:44 pm to
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You cant be this stupid.


No. But apparently you are. Do you really believe it will be a new offense? Same plays, different play caller.
Posted by LSUPRS
Member since Sep 2010
155 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 3:46 pm to
Thats what you implied, goof. The offense and tendencies will not change. Or do you think video of Sark isnt avail?
There is zero advantage to this move.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8427 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 3:50 pm to
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tendencies will not change


I beg to differ here. Kiffin liked to run jet sweeps to stretch defenses and open up the middle for the run game. Sark may use the run up the middle to set up shots deep. Clemson won't know this until they get into the game.
Posted by UA94_in_VA
Member since Dec 2016
3 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 3:51 pm to
No need for new plays. Same plays as before- just when they are called. A philosophy change. Help out a young QB with safe throws instead of putting the game on his shoulders with low percentage pass plays. Run the ball inside 20 if your getting 7 yards per carry.
Posted by UA94_in_VA
Member since Dec 2016
3 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 3:53 pm to
I always felt lane was trying to paint an offensive masterpiece with no regard for the situation or talent on the team. I'm also certain that he began to resent everyone questioning the playcalling.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted by LSUPRS
Member since Sep 2010
155 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 3:58 pm to
Kiffin is gone. Who in the world would study his tendencies now?
Sark tendencies wont change, either. Video is available for same for Clemson to study, and they will.
Posted by LSUPRS
Member since Sep 2010
155 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 3:59 pm to
So we agree. No change at all.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8427 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:10 pm to
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Sark tendencies wont change, either.


So you really think it's easier for Clemson to prepare for somebody that hasn't called a game in a year with other teams players. Or for Sark to prepare how he will utilize the players skill sets he has been around all season against Clemson's defense? I would say if there is an advantage it goes to Sark.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53586 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:10 pm to
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I beg to differ here. Kiffin liked to run jet sweeps to stretch defenses and open up the middle for the run game. Sark may use the run up the middle to set up shots deep. Clemson won't know this until they get into the game.


because they will implement a whole new offensive scheme a week prior to the NC

makes sense
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
26882 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:12 pm to
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HailToTheChiz



You post some of the dumbest shite on this site. That's saying something.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:15 pm to
Do you think it will be easy for the players with Sark calling the plays? They have no in-game experience with his game plan or rapport. This isn't Madden or NCAA on ps3
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:15 pm to
Do you think it will be easy for the players with Sark calling the plays? They have no in-game experience with his game plan or rapport. This isn't Madden or NCAA on ps3
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8427 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:17 pm to
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because they will implement a whole new offensive scheme a week prior to the NC


I'm not sure how Gus and Rhett do it on the Plains but I'm pretty sure most other schools actually game plan for the team they are about to play. How and where to attack with the same plays they've ran all year.

I mean I can understand believing the whirly bird play will work against everybody.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30871 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:26 pm to
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Thats what you implied, goof. The offense and tendencies will not change. Or do you think video of Sark isnt avail?
There is zero advantage to this move.


You're a fool if you believe this. Saban's gonna try to sell this to the public, but the "personality" of the offense will be different, and there will be NO tendencies for Clemson to draw from other than very basic ones dictated by the personnel...watch.
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:30 pm to
Alabama did the right thing. Kiffen trying to throw the ball over and over when the rungame was clearly working against Washington was quite the head scratcher. I think Sark will do well, but I think Nick will definitely have more input on the play calling against Clemson. Sark will have more control next year I think.
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
5041 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:52 pm to
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Kiffen trying to throw the ball over and over when the rungame was clearly working against Washington was quite the head scratcher.

I know some attempts ended up being scrambles that were counted as runs, but Alabama was only credited with 14 pass attempts. That's really not a lot in modern football and wasn't "over and over."
If Bama can't pass and is made one dimensional against Clemson, Bama will lose. Saban and Sark both know this.
Posted by Drank
Member since Jun 1864
Member since Dec 2012
12122 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:12 pm to
People can say what they want but Kiffin was flat out fired. The best recruiting tool Kiffin and FAU had was to have Kiffin calling plays in a title game. This was no mutual decision. His desperation for any HC job shows he had no job waiting for him at Alabama. The guy was late for meetings, had a lack of focus, and showed a complete disregard for the overall gameplan this past year.

As usual Kiffin can't get out of his own way. This situation will come up over and over if he ever does get to interview for a major job again. And he won't be getting that coveted endorsement from Saban because of how he acted when the team needed him most.
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