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Kirby Smart
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:04 pm
Was it worth firing Richt to get him?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:06 pm to Dude88
kirby will end up as some nfl assistant
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:08 pm to Dude88
[img]Was it worth firing Richt to get him?[/img]
RICHT didn't when an SECC the last 10 years he coached and recruiting was in the
toilet
WTF do you think?
RICHT didn't when an SECC the last 10 years he coached and recruiting was in the
toilet
WTF do you think?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:10 pm to Dude88
Signed two 5 stars last weekend, he isn’t going anywhere
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:11 pm to Dude88
Sounds like the SEC is really nervous about kirby with threads like these
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:11 pm to Byrdybyrd05
It doesn't matter how many five-stars he gets, everyone knows that Kirby can't develop talent, much less win the biggest games of his career. Not to mention that his offense is stone age and antiquated and like Les Miles, Kirby is the worse game manager in the SEC.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:12 pm to Dude88
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Was it worth firing Richt to get him?
They must have liked the idea of Maxwell Smart as in Get Smart! He is just like that guy! Love it!
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 1:06 am
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:13 pm to Dude88
A person named "Kirby" is rarely "worth it"
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:16 pm to admiralduckwad
Yeah, I’ve always wondered what kind of parents Kirby had.
Didn’t they realize that Kirby would eventually reach age 10, and the name Kirby would sound ridiculously babyish by then?
Didn’t they realize that Kirby would eventually reach age 10, and the name Kirby would sound ridiculously babyish by then?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:16 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Overrated coach, overrated program, signs overrated players...see a trend there?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:17 pm to RD Dawg
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RICHT didn't when an SECC
The only reason why Kirby beat Auburn in that title game was cause Auburn was extremely injury-riddled in that game. As Auburn had literally destroyed UGA the week before. It didn't matter, in any event, cause Alabama ended up beating UGA in the national championship game.
Well, I guess it mattered somewhat, as UGA backed their way into an SEC Championship, but nonetheless, they weren't the best team in the SEC in 2017. As Alabama beat them and I'm sure LSU could have beat them too. As LSU had beaten that same Auburn team that destroyed Georgia at full strength.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:19 pm to 3morereps
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Signed two 5 stars last weekend, he isn’t going anywhere
Kirby could sign all five stars and he still would find a way to lose all of the biggest games of his career. The dude just can't coach much less develop talent for shite.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:21 pm to Dude88
Kirby is going to get UGA placed on probation when his bagmen admit to their acts.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:31 pm to LSU Bayou Tiger
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The only reason why Kirby beat Auburn in that title game was cause Auburn was extremely injury-riddled
Please just STFU...hi didn't play defense for em and if you only have one semi healthy RB you ain't winning a SECC
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Alabama ended up beating UGA in the national championship game.
Okay? So I guess you were being a good little bitch and rooting for your daddy in the NC.
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Well, I guess it mattered somewhat, as UGA backed their way into an SEC Championship
Hilarious Didn't back into anything.
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As Alabama beat them and I'm sure LSU could have beat them too
Bama owned yer arse both years...did you even score a TD
against em either year?
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LSU had beaten that same Auburn team that destroyed Georgia at full strength
Who had more injuries slick?Auburn vs UGA in '17 SECCG or UGA vs LSU in '19? It wasn't Auburn coonass.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:31 pm to LSU Bayou Tiger
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The only reason why Kirby beat Auburn in that title game was cause Auburn was extremely injury-riddled
Please just STFU...hi didn't play defense for em and if you only have one semi healthy RB you ain't winning a SECC
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Alabama ended up beating UGA in the national championship game.
Okay? So I guess you were being a good little bitch and rooting for your daddy in the NC.
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Well, I guess it mattered somewhat, as UGA backed their way into an SEC Championship
Hilarious Didn't back into anything.
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As Alabama beat them and I'm sure LSU could have beat them too
Bama owned yer arse both years...did you even score a TD
against em either year?
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LSU had beaten that same Auburn team that destroyed Georgia at full strength
Who had more injuries slick?Auburn vs UGA in '17 SECCG or UGA vs LSU in '19? It wasn't Auburn coonass.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:32 pm to Dude88
Must have really liked the vacuum.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:36 pm to Dude88
I would say yes. I don't think Kirby is an elite coach, but I believe he can be. Richt was never going to be an elite coach, no matter what he did. Richt was basically like Harbaugh.
However, if Georgia was chasing championships you should never get someone with their "first gig" going after it. Kirby has serious problems managing the roster and really, if they had hired someone who had experience they might literally be unbeatable.
I don't think Kirby is this magical recruiter that everyone thinks he is, I think anyone who came in after Richt when all of the money was flowing would recruit at a similar level.
I think Kirby also has some issues with just how insane he is when he's coaching and also likes to dominate the team along with the coaches. Even when the offense is on the field he's chimping out on the sidelines, screaming at people when he's up by 40 points or just generally looking completely unpleasant.
Which works, it seems, for a lot of guys, but I think he does it too much.
However, Georgia did need to move on. Richt wasn't getting it done and they needed a fresh start.
I also think that the longer Georgia gives Kirby, the more time they limit themselves from actually achieving a National Championship. All four Quarterbacks in the Playoff were top 5 in the Total QBR and seeing how Fromm fell off a cliff and didn't have enough faith to come back, that would be extremely concerning.
Furthermore: All four of the teams in the Playoff have explosive offenses.
Scoring Offense:
Clemson (4th, 45 PPG)
Oklahoma (6th, 42.1 PPG)
LSU (1st, 48.9)
OSU (3rd, 46.9)
Georgia is 50th with 30.8, and while their model of a team is very sound for consistently winning 10 games a year, it's not actually good for winning championships.
Michel helped Georgia overcome vanilla playcalling by being an outstanding RB with Chubb as a backup in their playoff run, which is what really "saved" him. Now that those two aren't there, their offense has really just stagnated because teams are figuring out how to scheme around them.
I, personally, would be quietly shopping or waiting for another coach immediately with an offensive mind or a defensive coach who believes in a dynamic offense. Even Saban played Tua to give his offense an injection and one of Burrow's most incredible traits is that he will take off when nothing is there.
Slow Quarterbacks in slow offenses just make it more and more difficult as the year goes on because anytime a team goes up by two scores you're in a lot of trouble. Your offense already shortens the game and so you put substantially more pressure on all parts of your game -- to the point that no one can make mistakes.
Sorry to rant, but it's an interesting conundrum that Georgia has because in the end it is the same position as Richt except Kirby is such a good recruiter (as good as his checks clear, of course) that he gives everyone hope. I don't see anything changing until they get a modern offense to go with their improving, already above average/elite defense.
EDIT: I also want to give a shout out and major kudos to Orgeron. He completely rehauled his offense and is very hands off, he lets his OC be the OC and lets them develop that part of the ball because they are good at it.
The involvement Kirby has with the offense lets me believe that he is not the same as Orgeron. Orgeron will do whatever it takes to win, and seems to at least be conscious that what he was doing simply wasn't working. He's not insane, he's not all over the sideline, he's cool, calm, collected and above all seems like a genuine person.
That comes with a lot of experience, which Kirby just doesn't have.
However, if Georgia was chasing championships you should never get someone with their "first gig" going after it. Kirby has serious problems managing the roster and really, if they had hired someone who had experience they might literally be unbeatable.
I don't think Kirby is this magical recruiter that everyone thinks he is, I think anyone who came in after Richt when all of the money was flowing would recruit at a similar level.
I think Kirby also has some issues with just how insane he is when he's coaching and also likes to dominate the team along with the coaches. Even when the offense is on the field he's chimping out on the sidelines, screaming at people when he's up by 40 points or just generally looking completely unpleasant.
Which works, it seems, for a lot of guys, but I think he does it too much.
However, Georgia did need to move on. Richt wasn't getting it done and they needed a fresh start.
I also think that the longer Georgia gives Kirby, the more time they limit themselves from actually achieving a National Championship. All four Quarterbacks in the Playoff were top 5 in the Total QBR and seeing how Fromm fell off a cliff and didn't have enough faith to come back, that would be extremely concerning.
Furthermore: All four of the teams in the Playoff have explosive offenses.
Scoring Offense:
Clemson (4th, 45 PPG)
Oklahoma (6th, 42.1 PPG)
LSU (1st, 48.9)
OSU (3rd, 46.9)
Georgia is 50th with 30.8, and while their model of a team is very sound for consistently winning 10 games a year, it's not actually good for winning championships.
Michel helped Georgia overcome vanilla playcalling by being an outstanding RB with Chubb as a backup in their playoff run, which is what really "saved" him. Now that those two aren't there, their offense has really just stagnated because teams are figuring out how to scheme around them.
I, personally, would be quietly shopping or waiting for another coach immediately with an offensive mind or a defensive coach who believes in a dynamic offense. Even Saban played Tua to give his offense an injection and one of Burrow's most incredible traits is that he will take off when nothing is there.
Slow Quarterbacks in slow offenses just make it more and more difficult as the year goes on because anytime a team goes up by two scores you're in a lot of trouble. Your offense already shortens the game and so you put substantially more pressure on all parts of your game -- to the point that no one can make mistakes.
Sorry to rant, but it's an interesting conundrum that Georgia has because in the end it is the same position as Richt except Kirby is such a good recruiter (as good as his checks clear, of course) that he gives everyone hope. I don't see anything changing until they get a modern offense to go with their improving, already above average/elite defense.
EDIT: I also want to give a shout out and major kudos to Orgeron. He completely rehauled his offense and is very hands off, he lets his OC be the OC and lets them develop that part of the ball because they are good at it.
The involvement Kirby has with the offense lets me believe that he is not the same as Orgeron. Orgeron will do whatever it takes to win, and seems to at least be conscious that what he was doing simply wasn't working. He's not insane, he's not all over the sideline, he's cool, calm, collected and above all seems like a genuine person.
That comes with a lot of experience, which Kirby just doesn't have.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:38 am to RD Dawg
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Please just STFU...hi didn't play defense for em and if you only have one semi healthy RB you ain't winning a SECC
You STFU! Everything I said is true. Had Auburn not been severely injury-riddled in that second game, they would have beat the crap out of UGA just like in the first game.
Hence, UGA and Kirby backed their way into an SEC Championships. As that SEC Championship was a fluke victory. It ought to have a damn asterisk by it.
Nonetheless, UGA couldn't beat Alabama and I bet had LSU had the chance to play UGA as well in that season, LSU would have beat the crap out of UGA as well. Cause LSU beat the crap out of Auburn when they were still undefeated and at full strength.
As Alabama had gotten lucky as hell to beat LSU to keep LSU out of the championship game. Indeed, LSU should have won that damn game. Cause LSU beat Alabama every which way in that game but on the damn scoreboard.
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Okay? So I guess you were being a good little bitch and rooting for your daddy in the NC.
I didn't care who won that game. I didn't have a horse in that race.
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Hilarious Didn't back into anything.
It's true that Georgia's SEC Championship was a fluke and should have an asterisk by it. As Georgia was the fourth-best team in the SEC that season. Indeed, Alabama, LSU, and Auburn at full health were all better than UGA that season!
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Bama owned yer arse both years...did you even score a TD
against em either year?
Not really cause in 2017, LSU actually outplayed Alabama. As LSU had far more total yards and first downs in that game. LSU just didn't win on the scoreboard.
Nonetheless, if any team is owned by Alabama it's UGA. Hell, I can't even remember the last time UGA beat Alabama. Come to think of it, LSU has owned UGA too.
Anyway, I hope Kirby remains at UGA forever cause I know as long as Kirby remains at UGA, LSU will always be able to beat UGA.
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