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re: Kirby Smart Crying On The "Deterioration of Football"

Posted on 8/19/24 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 5:49 pm to
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Pruitts time at UGA was his least successful stint prior to being a head coach but y’all feel his time at UGA got him the Vols gig?


Chalk this up as you sucking at reading as I didn’t mention his time at uga.

Vols hired the successful Bama DC, just like UGA did. Surely it would work to copy what just won the SEC.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19867 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 6:15 pm to
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Vols hired the successful Bama DC, just like UGA did


It’s as if Saban had a moderately successful coaching tree. Who would have thunk that.
Posted by AUTubaHerd
Member since Nov 2012
2065 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 6:57 pm to
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He isn’t wrong. When your players can transfer at a whim, and many do, you are going to have less experienced players ready to play if a starter gets hurt. That seems like common sense.


It’s irrational for talented players to go to a school and sit for years because they’ve stockpiled talent.

I would personally be OK making the transfer rules stricter and keeping the NIL. Previously Kirby and Saban played the “pay under the table” strategy, which was especially good because players couldn’t easily transfer out if they were sitting the bench.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 7:23 pm to
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It’s as if Saban had a moderately successful coaching tree. Who would have thunk that.


Vols could have hired anyone from anywhere, but saw uga dominate the 2017 seccg:

“If it worked for uga so quickly, it should work for the vols too!”

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 7:25 pm to
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It’s irrational for talented players to go to a school and sit for years because they’ve stockpiled talent.


Depends on how important coaching and development is.
Posted by WalkonQB
Member since Jun 2023
511 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 7:34 pm to
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Previously Kirby and Saban played the “under the table strategy.”


Rich coming from a barner.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 7:47 pm to
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The reduction was self imposed and de facto due to the majority of the roster leaving over the Pruitt scandal.


And if it was all on Jeremy Pruitt why did Tennessee "voluntarily" take a reduction? because you know and i know that if they had not the NCAA would have. Your University covered up rapes, sexual assaults and domestic violence. Don't pretend them to be some benevolent entity that just wants to do the right thing when it is not necessary.

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The irony of aVol fan talking about consequences is absolutely hilarious by the way.

FIFY

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The rest was just the voices in your head with Dooley and Jones.
Oh no. We had all the Vol posters talking about "brick by brick" and "Champions of life" and so on. They definitely did not come from my head.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
12179 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 7:54 pm to
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DawgsLife


How did you let yourself into this troll fest?
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4848 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 8:01 pm to
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He isn’t wrong. When your players can transfer at a whim, and many do, you are going to have less experienced players ready to play if a starter gets hurt. That seems like common sense.

I may be wrong (and it would seem I am based on Smart's comments) but I would *think* more talent would flow up toward programs like Georgia, Alabama, and Ohio State in the era of the portal. The 4-5 star players that didn't pan out leave the top programs for somewhere they can get a second chance while the overlooked guys that have proven their worth at Kansas (or wherever) transfer to the big boys for more NIL money, a better supporting cast, more exposure, etc.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 8:04 pm to
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Previously Kirby and Saban played the “pay under the table” strategy, which was especially good because players couldn’t easily transfer out if they were sitting the bench.


Auburn and Georgia. One was on probation for paying players during their first title season, and was investigated for paying players in 2010 during their second title season.

The other team has never been investigated for or on probation for paying players.

Care to guess which is which?
Posted by Opry
Member since Oct 2023
5205 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 8:05 pm to
Smart not going to outcoach anyone. He runs a very conservative offense and tries to out talent the other team. Plus he is a wuss. He won some NCs with some weak schedules and good timing. He will always be a back-stabber that would sell out others to get ahead.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 8:06 pm to
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How did you let yourself into this troll fest?


A vol fan made a comment directed at me and i responded. Is that ok?

How did you get in?
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19867 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 8:12 pm to
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And if it was all on Jeremy Pruitt why did Tennessee "voluntarily" take a reduction


To avoid real punishment. They fired all of Pruitts staff off and on the field.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
12179 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 8:13 pm to
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How did you get in?


I skimmed the latest running troll fest and saw you had responded. I was a little surprised.

I'll tap out.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 8:14 pm to
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Smart not going to outcoach anyone. He runs a very conservative offense and tries to out talent the other team.


Ok smokeytwo.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 8:16 pm to
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may be wrong (and it would seem I am based on Smart's comments) but I would *think* more talent would flow up toward programs like Georgia, Alabama, and Ohio State in the era of the portal.


It goes both ways, and that’s where the lack of experience within the system come into play.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4848 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 9:16 pm to
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It goes both ways, and that’s where the lack of experience within the system come into play.

If true freshmen can figure out enough to be effective immediately, I don't know why a seasoned transfer cannot do the same.

I still think the current system should make the strong stronger because it takes some of the guesswork out of acquiring talent. It a LB named Billy from Plano is overlooked by Texas and goes over to New Mexico State and fricks shite up, then Texas can just go steal him away.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38116 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 9:27 pm to
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true freshmen can figure out enough to be effective immediately, I don't know why a seasoned transfer cannot do the same.


Most freshman cannot do so. Most are liabilities due to limited knowledge of the system. They would function much better if they had more time learning the intricate systems of modernFB.
Posted by 5WFSHR
Montgomery, AL
Member since Apr 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 9:38 pm to
He’s the same ahole that worked under and studied Saban.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 6:34 am to
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I skimmed the latest running troll fest and saw you had responded. I was a little surprised.

I'll tap out.


Gotcha. I typically don't troll unless somebody takes a shot at Georgia. If they do I kind of enjoy pointing out their hypocrisy.
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