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re: Kirby became fastest coach in SEC history to win 100 games

Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
45548 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:25 pm to
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So, while what Kirby did is amazing...nothing holds a candle to the turnaround that Bama saw under Bear Bryant.
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You'd have to dust off Neyland who took the UT job because we were bad at football.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40067 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:38 pm to
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Forgot about what?


You Forgot the time period I was discussing with you, which was bama and uga 2 years prior to arrival.

This isn’t the first discussion you couldn’t keep track of where the discussion was.

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Not to mention you apparently think SoS metrics work because of "1 extra G5".


This was in reference into overall record, not SOS.

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Your reading comprehension deficiencies are an ongoing problem.


Your reading comprehension deficiencies are an ongoing problem, but feel free trying to project them onto me.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39038 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:45 pm to
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You Forgot the time period I was discussing with you, which was bama and uga 2 years prior to arrival.



In talking about what they inherited.

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This was in reference into overall record, not SOS.


You said it in reference to your SoS numbers.

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Your reading comprehension deficiencies are an ongoing problem.

Your reading comprehension deficiencies are an ongoing problem, but feel free trying to project them onto me.


Ummm, ok.




Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40067 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:52 pm to
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they were pre-season favorites pretty often when I was growing u

Largely irrelevant
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:11 pm to
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Would he have gotten to 100 that fast playing in the SEC West?


Saban won 34 games at Toledo and 48 games at Michigan State.

Which of those teams were in the SEC West?

Buncha goobers.

Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
6503 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:15 pm to
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Saban won 34 games at Toledo and 48 games at Michigan State.

Which of those teams were in the SEC West?

Buncha goobers.


This stat is for coaching at one SEC school not all time.. It took 118 games at Alabama for Saban to get to 100 wins.
This post was edited on 10/23/24 at 2:17 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40067 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:49 pm to
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In talking about what they inherited.


Yes. That’s what we were discussing.

We were discussing what they inherited.

You forgot about that. Focus better so you don’t continue to have this problem.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39038 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:31 pm to
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Yes. That’s what we were discussing.

We were discussing what they inherited.

You forgot about that. Focus better so you don’t continue to have this problem.


Again, the fact you thought I was still talking about that just highlights I over-estimated you because you are in fact stupid. We had already established Kirby took over a much better than than Saban.

I didn't forget anything, you're just incapable of following the conservation and apparently need someone to flash neon signs for help.

frick off.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40067 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:56 pm to
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Again, the fact you thought I was still talking about that ju


1. That’s what you and I were discussing. It’s safe to assume that’s what we were still discussing because You and I weren’t discussing anything else.

2. There was no reason to think you suddenly changed subjects. You failed to make that clear. Thats on you.

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established Kirby took over a much better than than Saban.


The 2 year comparison challenges your take. It was not much better. The difference was as little as a terrible uga win over GSU.
This post was edited on 10/23/24 at 3:58 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39038 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 4:02 pm to
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1. That’s what you and I were discussing. It’s safe to assume that’s what we were still discussing. You and I weren’t discussing anything else.

2. There was no reason to think you suddenly changed subjects. You failed to make that clear. Thats on you.


I didn't change subjects. The subject was speed to win 100 wins.

We had already established Kirby inherited a much better team/program, next was a comparison on the types of schedules they faced over those 100 wins.

You failed to keep up and keep blaming me for it. My mistake was giving you too much credit and not realizing you failed to keep up. And at this point, it's pretty much a waste of time to even talk to you.
This post was edited on 10/23/24 at 4:03 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40067 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 4:18 pm to
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I didn't change subjects.


The subject switched numerous times.

Each post can create a new line of discussion.

In this instance, my post was about the 2 year comparisons prior to season 1. That's the only thing our discussion was about.

You failed to understand that, and went onto discuss a different subject, and without making that change clear.

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We had already established Kirby inherited a much better team/program


No, you didn't prove that as I challenged that false assumption with my post about the 2 year comparison prior to season 1. That's what my post was about, and you damn sure didn't prove me wrong.

Now you understand where the discussion went, and remains, so get back to discussing the 2 year comparison you ran from earlier.
This post was edited on 10/23/24 at 4:19 pm
Posted by UGAnations
North Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
919 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 4:24 pm to
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He took over after another really good coach in Mark Richt. A lot of Georgia fans won’t admit it, but he was.

According to Wiki -

Richt finished his career at Georgia with 145 wins and 51 losses, making him the second-winningest coach in Georgia history (after Vince Dooley's 201). He left with the highest winning percentage of any coach with more than 29 games at the school.

If this is true, which I would defer to UGa fans, Kirby took a very good UGA program and made it great.



It always makes me laugh that Bama, LSU, Florida fans have a soft spot for Richt and are quick to defend him. They knew as long as Richt was there that UGA was no real threat.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40067 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 6:26 pm to
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always makes me laugh that Bama, LSU, Florida fans have a soft spot for Richt and are quick to defend him.


I do see the humor in it.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
4508 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 6:28 pm to
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It always makes me laugh that Bama, LSU, Florida fans have a soft spot for Richt and are quick to defend him. They knew as long as Richt was there that UGA was no real threat.


This is objectively true. Richt was a good guy but soft and didn’t have what it took to be a championship coach.
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
8119 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 6:30 pm to
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Because he was born on 3rd base. He didn't have to build a program like LSU or rebuild a program like Alabama.

He got close in his second year with CMRs players including the 2013 class that was a total bust but then spent 4 YEARS building his own culture and program before he broke through and won a natty. We were definitely trending down under CMR but I will agree that Richt brought the program back to relevance.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6797 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 6:43 pm to
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This is objectively true. Richt was a good guy but soft and didn’t have what it took to be a championship coach.

I mean both can be true? Richt never got over the hump but he left Kirby a program that was averaging 10 wins a year and top 10 in talent composite. That's not being born on third base but it was still a much better situation than what Saban took over at Bama or what Spurrier took over at UF (not just on the field but also with the NCAA issues for both at the time).
Richt also had some bad luck, there was no 4 team CFP for most of tenure in Athens.
This post was edited on 10/23/24 at 6:48 pm
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
4508 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 6:57 pm to
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I mean both can be true? Richt never got over the hump but he left Kirby a program that was averaging 10 wins a year and top 10 in talent composite. That's not being born on third base but it was still a much better situation than what Saban took over at Bama or what Spurrier took over at UF (not just on the field but also with the NCAA issues for both at the time).


I’d say Kirby was born on 2nd base. He wasn’t born on 3rd. Ryan Day is an example of being born on 3rd. Georgia had a serious recruiting problem in the last part of richts tenure. For every stud tailback like Gurley and Chubb they utterly whiffed on linemen. Georgia had something crazy like 0 linemen on Defense or offense drafted in the first round for like a decade before Kirby got in there. It’s impossible to win in this conference without great line play.

The culture of being good and winning and top 10 recruiting was there though. Kirby took them nuclear with that base he inherited.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40067 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:54 pm to
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I’d say Kirby was born on 2nd base.


Agree, And closer to 1st than 3rd.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40067 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:13 pm to
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We had already established Kirby inherited a much better team/program


With who? You didn’t establish this with the time periods I narrowed it down to.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89724 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 3:22 pm to
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He got close in his second year with CMRs players


sure there were a lot of richt's players in 2017, but let's not act like kirby wasn't instrumental as well. Look at some of the MAJOR pieces of our 2017 championship run:

jake fromm
deandre swift
andrew thomas
richard lecounte

all recruited by kirby. We don't go as far as we do in 2017 without those guys, not even close actually.
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