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Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:30 pm to nc14
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This is a real test season, win when you are expected to. Many coaches can win when there are no/low expectations. It's like golfing on Sunday with the lead when you are expected to win. I like the way Sumlin sounds. Not impressed with his lack of control over the face of his team. All that said, I hope he has long term success. Now batting...
I really like Sumlin, I mean he's from Alabama so I want him to do well. I just think the JFF situation was more than a 1st year SEC coach was prepared to handle. I mean as far as I'm aware of, Sumlins background has been at lower tier D-1 schools so he's probably just as overwhelmed as JFF but he damn sure cant act out
This post was edited on 7/30/13 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:31 pm to MsGarrison
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Yea. U still got my email? I'll get my polls going tomorrow... so we can get this going before USA today polls.. which I think comes out friday
Yup and mines still the same. let me know what you need me to do and I'll get'r done
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:33 pm to Maroon Flash
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Sumlin has enough talent in his backyard to be able to recruit a MNC team without taking a single OOS player.
One would think that between A&M and UT there would be more MNC's than the entire rest of the country combined. I'm sure they're on their way soon enough.
So much fricking talent man. So much.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:47 pm to Mohican
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One would think that between A&M and UT there would be more MNC's than the entire rest of the country combined. I'm sure they're on their way soon enough.
It's tough when the whole country recruits your state. Especially Okie and Okie Lite.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 8:49 pm to cyde
quote:No way man. A&M is legitimately better than everybody at everything
You may very well be the biggest homer -- of any fanbase -- on this entire board.
That's saying a fricking LOT.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:21 pm to AMM AU9893
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No way man. A&M is legitimately better than everybody at everything
Yeah... I guess I just let myself forget.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:41 pm to cyde
Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:47 pm to Maroon Flash
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Soon
Cool.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 10:05 pm to cyde
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ou may very well be the biggest homer -- of any fanbase -- on this entire board.
Unlike you I have been to both schools. Been to Auburn a number of times. I can say that a thread about them hiring the Aggies Coach away from them is ludicrous.
I hope you will make it over on September 14.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 10:07 pm to undecided
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I mean as far as I'm aware of, Sumlins background has been at lower tier D-1 schools so he's probably just as overwhelmed as JFF but he damn sure cant act out
Sumlin had a prior stint as OC at A&M for a year, then spent the next 4 years at Oklahoma. This isn't his first rodeo at a major program, but honestly, JFF is really a unique situation. Literally no coach has ever had to deal w/ a freshman Heisman before, let alone a freshman Heisman in the Twitter age.
I don't care much about Johnny's antics in the off-season, provided he doesn't do something really illegal. The real test will come when the season starts. If Johnny plays well, then great. If he doesn't, then you can legitimately ask whether Sumlin did enough to control him.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 10:26 pm to Mirthomatic
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Sumlin had a prior stint as OC at A&M for a year, then spent the next 4 years at Oklahoma. This isn't his first rodeo at a major program
Honestly didn't know this. I knew he had a connection to Perdue and was a disciple of Art Briles (?) but am a little hazy on the specifics
Sumlin just strikes me as a guy who wants to coach football and is willing to leave everything else in the hands of administration, which with Auburn's boosters gone wild might not have been a good combination. He doesn't strike me as a P.R savvy/stealth type which is what this type of situation requires
I think everybody holds blame in this situation but that won't stop the finger pointing and blame games
Posted on 7/30/13 at 10:46 pm to undecided
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Hell maybe one day we'll have another Bowden walking around campus.
Well, a Bowden (It was Bobby Bowden's grandson) did go to Auburn during the Tuberville era. He was a friend of mine. His grandfather called my house once looking for him, I didn't know what to say.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 10:48 pm to aubiematt
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Well, a Bowden (It was Bobby Bowden's grandson) did go to Auburn during the Tuberville era. He was a friend of mine. His grandfather called my house once looking for him, I didn't know what to say.
Well then the circle is complete and I will update the OP to reflect this
Posted on 7/30/13 at 10:59 pm to undecided
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Honestly didn't know this. I knew he had a connection to Perdue and was a disciple of Art Briles (?) but am a little hazy on the specifics
Sumlin coached for Mike Price, Joe Tiller, RC Slocum, and Bob Stoops (in order). At his various stops the star players were Drew Bledsoe, Drew Brees (3rd place Heisman), Adrian Peterson (Heisman runner-up), Jason White (Heisman winner), Case Keenum and now Manziel (Heisman winner). He's basically spent his entire career around star coaches and players.
He has coached at 5 different BCS level schools and been an assistant in 5 BCS bowls including two MNC games in 03 and 04. He has zero relation to Art Briles other than he followed him at UH.
This post was edited on 7/30/13 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 7/30/13 at 11:06 pm to tmc94
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He has coached at 4 different BCS level schools and been an assistant in 5 BCS bowls including two MNC games in 03 and 04. He has zero relation to Art Briles other than he followed him at UH.
Am I getting him confused with Dana Holgo as far as the Briles connection??? I'm entirely to lazy to google this. Also while you're at it can you clear up the Perdue connection. My understanding was that he was interested in the job but they went with someone else
Posted on 7/30/13 at 11:16 pm to Maroon Flash
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Unlike you I have been to both schools. Been to Auburn a number of times.
lol. Well now that you're an expert on the topic...
Posted on 7/30/13 at 11:20 pm to undecided
Dana Holgorsen was a Leach assistant that Sumlin hired to come be the OC at UH. He then moved to Okie State before getting to WVU. He's one of 4 former Sumlin assistants with a head coaching gig. Briles coached with Holgorsen at Texas Tech (Briles coached RBs and Holgo coached WRs) but he is not a Briles disciple. I do not believe there is a Briles disciple coaching anywhere actually (which is surprising now that I think of it).
Sumlin played for Purdue (he was a LB). He also coached there under Joe Tiller. A&M hired him away from Purdue actually. I think Purdue should have hired him in 09 because they'll never get another chance now. They don't have that kind of coin.
Sumlin played for Purdue (he was a LB). He also coached there under Joe Tiller. A&M hired him away from Purdue actually. I think Purdue should have hired him in 09 because they'll never get another chance now. They don't have that kind of coin.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 11:24 pm to tmc94
Thanks for clearing that up, it's like six degrees of separation so no wonder I was so confused. The one thing I did have right was Perdue so there's that. I remember seeing somewhere he really wanted the Perdue job and was willing to work with them on the money but it just didn't happen. They should spend the rest of their lives kicking themselves
Posted on 7/30/13 at 11:31 pm to undecided
No doubt. They are fricking Purdue. I don't even know who their coach is now.
Btw, this little exercise reminds me how many brilliant dudes were around Mike Leach in the early 2000s.
Leach - head coach WSU
Kingsbury - head coach TTU
Holgorsen - head coach WVU
Briles - head coach Baylor
Dykes - head coach Cal
McNeil - head coach ECU
That's just off the original staff (and Kingsbury as a player) that Leach put together in his first year at Texas Tech. That film room must have been all kinds of awesomeness
Btw, this little exercise reminds me how many brilliant dudes were around Mike Leach in the early 2000s.
Leach - head coach WSU
Kingsbury - head coach TTU
Holgorsen - head coach WVU
Briles - head coach Baylor
Dykes - head coach Cal
McNeil - head coach ECU
That's just off the original staff (and Kingsbury as a player) that Leach put together in his first year at Texas Tech. That film room must have been all kinds of awesomeness
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