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re: Kevin Sumlin -vs- Brett Bielema

Posted on 8/21/16 at 9:04 am to
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 9:04 am to
BB crappy? Nah man I wouldn't say that. He did ok at wisky and has revamped that arky program. They beat us 2 in a row and came close to beating bama last year. Sumlins seat is hot but watch out for them this year. Their D should be the best they've had in a long time and they have a veteren qb that's good enough in that offense to be successful. I gonna say Big Brett even though sumlins seen more sec success to this point.
Posted by tjv305
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 9:44 am to
I will take the one with the better overall and conference record.
Posted by lefty08
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:05 am to
That's a shocker.......
Posted by BoddaBoom7
Oxford, AL
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:21 am to
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3rd best program historically in the west. It

Behind who? And if you say ahead of AU.....well that's just dumb. I'll give you 4th at best because yall have at least gotten to ATL. How many times have yall won?

Edit: Bert is also the better coach
This post was edited on 8/21/16 at 10:22 am
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:26 am to
Bert and not close
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:28 am to
I think this year will show us, but they could be just about completely even. Sumlin lucked out with Manziel to start, but has clearly struggled since his departure...and even struggled a little during his last season. Bielema on the other hand hasn't had a single good season yet, when he absolutely should have last year.

Both underachieving some, so this year may show us who can step up (or no one step up )
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:45 am to
Bert at this point...both are skating by on reputation right now.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:45 am to
Dp
This post was edited on 8/21/16 at 10:46 am
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 11:45 am to
Brett hasn't beaten Sumlin yet and he lost to Toledo and Texas Tech. This shouldn't even be a discussion.
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 11:51 am to
but he still finished behind Bert in the standings last year
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 11:56 am to
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and if it wasn't for Tom Rossley he doesn't even have the option


At least do some cursory research. Sherman's QB coach had to beg him to give Manziel a look.

Sherman redshirted both Johnny Manziel and Mike Evans.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 11:56 am to
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but he still finished behind Bert in the standings last year


Bert beat Freeze, but finished behind him in the standings.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42847 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 11:57 am to
Sumlin hasn't beaten Texas.

Bert has.

Just as relevant as your "argument".
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 11:59 am to
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and even struggled a little during his last season.


Sumlin has a habit of waiting WAY TOO LONG to fire bad/underperforming coaches.

He waited until 2014 (2 years too late) to fire Mark Sny_er.

He waited until 2014 (1 year too late) to fire B.J. Anderson then replaced him with an ever worse and more toxic coach (Dave Christiansen) who he promptly fired.

He waited until 2015 (should have never promoted him in the first place) to fire Jake Spavitard.

He has no bullets left. If he can't get it done with Mazzone (OC/QB), Turner (OL), and Chavis (DC), he'll never get it done.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Sherman redshirted both Johnny Manziel and Mike Evans.


And? He had Ryan Tannehill as his starter. I imagine a redshirt year was good for Manziel.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42847 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 12:01 pm to
Careful, a program like SC will come and snatch him up.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42847 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 12:03 pm to
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And? He had Ryan Tannehill as his starter. I imagine a redshirt year was good for Manziel.


Yeah, if anything the knock on Sherman would be having Tannehill playing WR for way too long...

Not that it was the difference between a championship or not for Aggy, but it could have been the difference in a better bowl game which would be a huge deal for a program like Aggy.
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 12:06 pm to
so is beating Arkansas or finishing higher in the standings more important to you?
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 12:09 pm to
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so is beating Arkansas or finishing higher in the standings more important to you?



Is this a rhetorical question?

Arkansas has replaced Texas as their superbowl each season.

Despite historically being an inferior program to Arkansas, all that matters is games played from "insert year here" where the series doesn't appear to be as lopsided as it truly is.
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 8/21/16 at 12:11 pm to
hence why they typically peak around the week they play us
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