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re: Junior College doesn’t count anymore.

Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
2086 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:14 am to
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I think SEC schools should have scholarship players and a pool of practice squad players they can NIL and develop…they get up to 2 years without it going against their eligibility.
Kind of like Nebraska did, until the B12 was formed?

Every Nebraska county giving a kid a "scholarship" so he could "walk-on" and not count against the scholarship limit.

Texas stopped that shite.

Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
2086 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:18 am to
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Yeah that didn’t help matters much. The NCAA screwed themselves.
The NCAA was made up of the schools they governed.

When certain schools violated the rules and incurred the wrath of the NCAA, they sued the NCAA. Again, and again, and again.

And this is were we are.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11714 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:22 am to
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Who says we can’t bring guys back from the NFL or UFL now that getting paid doesn’t mean anything?


LSU just signed a 22 year old basketball player who was playing professionally in Israel. He has 4 years of eligibilty remaining. Let me repeat, we found him in Israel's top professional basketball league...
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3608 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:44 am to
Get in line friend.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3028 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:03 pm to
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For starters, far as I know at least, no has asked yet. However, NJCAA is a separate organization, so the argument in court was I was not in the NCAA, therefore I should not lose NCAA time, D2, D3 would not have the same merits, NAIA would however.


Thank you for this post...

From what I understand, NAIA time doesn't count either.

From my view, this may actually bolster NJCAA and NAIA sports. NAIA is dying on the vine... and NJCAA isn't exactly robust these days.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3332 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:10 pm to
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From what I understand, NAIA time doesn't count either.


That’s fine. Then why should the NFL, CFL, or UFL count? Or any number of foreign professional basketball or rugby-like leagues?
^^^ Looks like LSU is already bring in foreign professional basketball players. Football is next.
You’re going to need a bolstering of NJCAA/NAIA because these 18yo kids are going to have to compete with the top pro athletes from around the world.
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 12:15 pm
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14547 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:17 pm to
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NCAA video games using players names, etc. was a huge cash grab.


They never used players real names.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
43939 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:36 pm to
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Friday filed an opening brief in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, seeking a reversal of the decision that has paved the way for Pavia’s sixth collegiate season.

The brief states that “the court … upended judicial consensus to allow [Pavia] to have a sixth season of competition in college football. In doing so, the court broke from the text, history, and consistent judicial understanding of the Sherman Act in sweeping aside longstanding eligibility rules based on deeply flawed reasoning.”

Pavia originally sued the NCAA to gain additional eligibility, arguing that two years spent at junior college New Mexico Military Institute (2020 and 2021) should not count toward his overall eligibility. Pavia later played for New Mexico State in 2022 and 2023 before quarterbacking Vanderbilt’s team in 2024.

In its brief, the NCAA argues several points:

• First, it reads, “the district court ignored this Court’s binding precedent affirming NCAA eligibility rules against antitrust challenges.”

• Second, the brief states that the court wrongly invalidated the NCAA’s traditional five years of eligibility rule by “quick look” antitrust review, despite the Supreme Court having made clear that challenges to NCAA rules must be evaluated under the so-called rule of reason (in antitrust law, rule of reason means a business practice is illegal only if it unreasonably restricts competition, requiring courts to consider both pro- and anti-competitive effects, rather than automatically deeming certain practices illegal).

• Third, the NCAA argues the district court committed "multiple substantive errors of antitrust law beyond its misapprehension of the governing legal standards. The plaintiff claims that Pavia "failed to offer any economic evidence or analysis in support of his motion for preliminary injunction, and only on reply, through an improper rebuttal expert declaration, offered new allegations of harm unrelated to what he pleaded in his complaint and argued in his motion.”

• Fourth, the brief reads, “the court accepted Pavia’s claim of irreparable harm despite uncontroverted evidence that Pavia waited years to bring his claim, quantified his alleged harm to be $1 million, and failed to show an actual emergency warranting expedited relief."

The NCAA alleges multiple student-athletes have since filed similar lawsuits seeking to extend their exhausted eligibility, "often citing nothing more than the [Pavia] decision in support of their claims; and more cases are sure to come.”


3/26 article
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3332 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:06 pm to
OK at least they’re trying
Posted by Lt. Columbo
Member since Nov 2012
1325 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 1:10 am to
So some could play 4 years at FSU and still have full eligibility?!
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3028 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 3:19 am to
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Every Nebraska county giving a kid a "scholarship" so he could "walk-on" and not count against the scholarship limit.


This was never true. The County scholarship thing came from an article in SI in the late 1970s.... but it wasn't an accurate portrayal of what the SI article actually said.

Trust me... this rumor was addressed over and over again in the old Big 8 before Texas was ever even in the picture.

This from Jon Johnston at Corn Nation:

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Many coaches bad-mouth the Cornhuskers’ walk-on program by spreading tales about so-called “county scholarships” in Nebraska. Says former Indiana coach Sam Wyche, who’s now coaching the Cincinnati Bengals, “What happens is that a great player gets his county’s nonathletic scholarship, which frees up a football scholarship for someone else.” In fact, county scholarships do not exist in Nebraska, and the university’s office of financial aid is at a loss to explain how such a rumor got started.

Rick Neuheisel complained about Nebraska’s unfair advantage of county scholarships when he was coaching at the University of Colorado. As the SI article states, they never existed.

I mean... as if Nebraska could get away with that, as if we’d found some magic loophole that NO ONE ELSE ever discovered.
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 3:26 am
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3907 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:25 am to
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I can’t believe I missed all this nonsense.


Probably because you were busy obsessing about LSU.
Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
1761 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:35 am to
Seems the only thing the NCAA focuses on now is staying in power to collect their huge March Madness payday. They give up on fights and fade into the hedges like Homer Simpson cause they don't want to antagonize schools enough that they break off and form their own separate organization.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19201 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 12:09 pm to
They might as well make it unlimited eligibility. It's semi pro now anyway.
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